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Quote: carl_spackler "I agree with a lot of that, well said.'"
I don't.

It's odd that, for some, Radford bashing is perfectly acceptable as a reason for poor performances, but any suggestion that previous regime(s) might have contributed is attacked with disgusting and abusive comments.

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Quote: ccs "I don't.

It's odd that, for some, Radford bashing is perfectly acceptable as a reason for poor performances, but any suggestion that previous regime(s) might have contributed is attacked with disgusting and abusive comments.'"


Who has used "disgusting and abusive comments?"

Gentle wasn't perfect, but he undoubtedly took the club, which had been in decline since 2006, on an upward trajectory. I don't know why he was sacked, but on the face of it I reckon it was either a knee jerk response to the Huddersfield game. Or, more likely, Pearson thought he had been stitched up by some of the contracts that Gentle and McRea had pushed through.

Now I don't know what players were earning, and it's probably true that Arundle, Crookes, Pitts etc where earning way above the market value, but the fact remains that Gentle got a lot more out of his players in the two seasons he was here than Radford got out of his last year.

Poor management in the past doesn't hide the fact that Radford led a squad of very capable players to 11th place.

I'm not steadfastly against Radford being coach, but I'd have a lot more respect for Pearson if he just came out and said, "I wasn't happy with the way the previous guys went about their business, I gave Lee the job a couple of years earlier than I would have liked to. He has a lot to learn but we believe is the right man and we will stand by him."

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "I'm not steadfastly against Radford being coach, but I'd have a lot more respect for Pearson if he just came out and said, "I wasn't happy with the way the previous guys went about their business, I gave Lee the job a couple of years earlier than I would have liked to. He has a lot to learn but we believe is the right man and we will stand by him."'"
... but he has.

This is getting very OT as usual.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "And your bias/unfounded criticism of Gentle as all the Radford lovers show the same, everything to do with a youngster playing or good at the club it was Radford, everything to do with something going wrong it was Gentle..it's complete b@llocks yet peoplecan't wait to keep banging on about it even on this thread which was what my point was.
Gentle gave Lineham a chance though, as he did Crooks, as he did Shaul, he was the coach. yet somehow the mastermind Radford whom has binned off our former dream team member & top scorer from last year, employed a turd of a winger when we had two kids waiting, employed a has being prop when we didn't need one, treated like poop a youngster whom never had a chance, a coach that has brought in a has being 33yr half instead of using Adbul or Rankin and that same coach that almost got us relegated & you say I'm bias ffs
Jason Crookes? Oh no - that was Gentle wasn't it.

Gentle also decided he didn't want to keep Andy Lynch and prefered Daniel Holdsworth instead of a player who went on to win the double and the Lance Todd Trophy in 2013.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "I'm not steadfastly against Radford being coach, but I'd have a lot more respect for Pearson if he just came out and said, "I wasn't happy with the way the previous guys went about their business, I gave Lee the job a couple of years earlier than I would have liked to. He has a lot to learn but we believe is the right man and we will stand by him."'"


Isn't that more or less exactly what he's said ? Pearson has also admitted to making mistakes - the main one having being persuaded by Gentle and McRae to either sign, or release, players that we shouldn't have done. In the case of signings it's well documented that the value we got on many contracts was a nightmare.

Pearson will rightly remove Radford if he doesn't produce the goods.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Who has used "disgusting and abusive comments?"

Gentle wasn't perfect, but he undoubtedly took the club, which had been in decline since 2006, on an upward trajectory. I don't know why he was sacked, but on the face of it I reckon it was either a knee jerk response to the Huddersfield game. Or, more likely, Pearson thought he had been stitched up by some of the contracts that Gentle and McRea had pushed through.

Now I don't know what players were earning, and it's probably true that Arundle, Crookes, Pitts etc where earning way above the market value, but the fact remains that Gentle got a lot more out of his players in the two seasons he was here than Radford got out of his last year.

Poor management in the past doesn't hide the fact that Radford led a squad of very capable players to 11th place.

I'm not steadfastly against Radford being coach, but I'd have a lot more respect for Pearson if he just came out and said, "I wasn't happy with the way the previous guys went about their business, I gave Lee the job a couple of years earlier than I would have liked to. He has a lot to learn but we believe is the right man and we will stand by him."'"


Mcrea was told he was leaving in may & I was told radford &last were getting the job on the way TO the challenge cup semi. So no knee jerking.
Radford was up against it from the off. Gentle had tied massive amounts of the cap to non value players. He had recruited to play a certain way eg fast n mobile pack - he admitted getting this wrong. He also had an experienced organising half with a kicking game in holdsworth.
Radford made mistakes but I think his recruitment this yr is spot on for what we need. Some of the lads given a go will be much better prepared n he himself can only be better for last yrs struggles.
Some terrible games last yr but we finished with a positive points diff from 11th. 2nd in league for breaks. Made more breaks scored more tries kicked more goals and made less tackles than the yrs before 6th place finish. Lost 9 games by 8 points or less (I think it was. Can't be bothered to check) these statistics all point to small tweaks that could improve our fortunes fairly easily. Main one for me being a big gob organiser and a good place/goal kicker which Pearson has backed by paying a fee. To many fans knee jerking last yr without really looking at what we had going on. 10 games in if we're looking rubbish I shout n moan as much as anyone but I like the look of the balance of our squad. Won't win the comp but think we can have a good season that'll bring some more entertaining games than last ye

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Quote: Staffs FC "Isn't that more or less exactly what he's said ? Pearson has also admitted to making mistakes - the main one having being persuaded by Gentle and McRae to either sign, or release, players that we shouldn't have done. In the case of signings it's well documented that the value we got on many contracts was a nightmare.

Pearson will rightly remove Radford if he doesn't produce the goods.'"


yes and with a lot of egg on his face

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Quote: bonaire "yes and with a lot of egg on his face'"


Possibly. But there's plenty of egg to go around if Radford does well. And that's what we all want as FC fans.

Don't we ?

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Quote: Staffs FC "Possibly. But there's plenty of egg to go around if Radford does well. And that's what we all want as FC fans.

Don't we ?'"


I reckon all posters negative or positive want this. There are quite coherent arguments on either side on this very thread and others. Personally, I am not sure Radford is upto it, we came 11th, but, to mitigate that, it was with a lot of narrow defeats that could easily be reversed.

My fear is our halves for next year, as I am not sure either will be quite what we need, but the great thing is we have youth in that area.

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Quote: hull smallears "I reckon all posters negative or positive want this. '"


Most. But not all I fear. And not all posters are either negative or positive. Many are able to question the bad stuff and give credit where it's due.

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Quote: Staffs FC "Most. But not all I fear. And not all posters are either negative or positive. Many are able to question the bad stuff and give credit where it's due.'"



Indeed, and how it should be. I just worked out I am probably going to miss 3 of the first 4 away games so am quite depressed about that at the mo!!

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Quote: hull smallears "Indeed, and how it should be. I just worked out I am probably going to miss 3 of the first 4 away games so am quite depressed about that at the mo!!'"


I'd wait and see how the results go first - it could be a blessing icon_lol.gif

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Quote: ccs "I don't.

It's odd that, for some, Radford bashing is perfectly acceptable as a reason for poor performances, but any suggestion that previous regime(s) might have contributed is attacked with disgusting and abusive comments.'"


1. I didn't see any disgusting or abusive comments by Mr Zucchini Head.
2. I (and from the content of the posts, I think Mr Zucchini Head, too) am not advocating blaming Radford for everything and Gentle for nothing. I just have an issue with the perceived balance of where the amounts of blame are currently being apportioned.

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Quote: Staffs FC "Possibly. But there's plenty of egg to go around if Radford does well. And that's what we all want as FC fans.

Don't we ?'"

Eggs? eusa_think.gif

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Egg on yer face. Or humble pie to eat. That kind of thing.

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