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Quote: Standee "He has a chance, like I said, I'd be happy to be wrong.'"


If you are giving him a chance, don't go saying things like Shaul needs to move to work with a good coach then.

You are contradicting yourself.

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Quote: Dave K. "If you are giving him a chance, don't go saying things like Shaul needs to move to work with a good coach then.

You are contradicting yourself.'"



I can give him a chance and have an opinion at the same time. Time will tell.

Out of interest, have you met Mr Radford?

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Quote: Standee "I can give him a chance and have an opinion at the same time. Time will tell.

Out of interest, have you met Mr Radford?'"


Yes, but not sure what that has to do with his coaching ability.

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Quote: Dave K. "Yes, but not sure what that has to do with his coaching ability.'"


Like I say, we shall see.

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Quote: Standee "Give it 6 months, I hope for all the world he proves me wrong, but I don't think he will.'"

Shaul was a skirlaugh bull bricklayer, his 1st direct coach at hull was Radford.
He's now one of the biggest prospects in the country now. N still at hull due to Radford too cos gentle was ok with letting him go at 1point.

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Quote: Kosh "Yup. And with McDonnell likely to miss pre-season and the start of the season proper that gap may well close even further.'"


Agreed. I think he has a few parts of his game that still need a bit of work (one of which being positioning as Jake points out), but the bulk of them are things that could/should improve naturally the more he plays (his positioning is actually much better than when he first came in already IMO, and will hopefully continue that upward trend).

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Releasing him makes little sense to me. Shaul will provide him with stiff competition but we can't go into the season with just one fullback. There is Horne too but, not sure how many games he will play and where Radford see's his role.

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When McDonnell was fit, Shaul couldn't get a game (anywhere). Unless at least one of them can play in another position, then keeping both will be an expensive waste - I reckon Shaul will be on a reasonable wage now.

Having said that, if McDonnell's hamstring is as bad as first feared, he might struggle to regain full fitness/speed anyway.

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Quote: ccs "When McDonnell was fit, Shaul couldn't get a game (anywhere). Unless at least one of them can play in another position, then keeping both will be an expensive waste - I reckon Shaul will be on a reasonable wage now.

Having said that, if McDonnell's hamstring is as bad as first feared, he might struggle to regain full fitness/speed anyway.'"


Well he did, he had York. The Doncaster link up had to be better organised.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Agreed. I think he has a few parts of his game that still need a bit of work (one of which being positioning as Jake points out), but the bulk of them are things that could/should improve naturally the more he plays (his positioning is actually much better than when he first came in already IMO, and will hopefully continue that upward trend).'"

I'm not too concerned about his positioning because, as you say, that's improving already. His linking as an extra pivot and his passing need work. Mind you, our passing in general is poor so he's hardly alone there. If he continues to improve at the same rate he has already then McDonnell will need to be on top form to keep him out - which is a good thing for all concerned.

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Quote: Kosh "I'm not too concerned about his positioning because, as you say, that's improving already. His linking as an extra pivot and his passing need work. Mind you, our passing in general is poor so he's hardly alone there. If he continues to improve at the same rate he has already then McDonnell will need to be on top form to keep him out - which is a good thing for all concerned.'"


Yep, agree. His general ball-handling is my only concern. I think everything else will come together at least some with age/experience, but his passing needs extra work.

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I think if their both fit to pick Shaul over McDonnell would be a mistake, Mcdonnell is by far the better FB, but that's to be expected because of his age and experience.

Shaul needs to be playing SL games because he's got everything going for him he just needs that experience to refine his game, maybe loaning him to another SL club is the answer with a recall clause to cover for injuries.

With a full SL season under his belt Shaul would be first choice FB for 2015.

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Quote: Airlie Street "I think if their both fit to pick Shaul over McDonnell would be a mistake, Mcdonnell is by far the better FB, but that's to be expected because of his age and experience.

Shaul needs to be playing SL games because he's got everything going for him he just needs that experience to refine his game, maybe loaning him to another SL club is the answer with a recall clause to cover for injuries.

With a full SL season under his belt Shaul would be first choice FB for 2015.'"


Isn't this year McDonnells final year in his contract?? If so no need to resign him.

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Quote: heard1989 "Isn't this year McDonnells final year in his contract?? If so no need to resign him.'"


Yeah I think so, in which case it would work out perfectly.

Shaul should be ready by then and we can sign a cheap/young FB as back up.

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If AP is intent on taking us forward with locality, passion and youth, then Shaul wears the number one jersey next year. He will only improve with a full year in the comp. Saying that, I do like Shannon and I thought he had a good year last season. Big call for Radders etc. to make.

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