And I watch a different game?

Crooks was great in defence, Tickle was playing injured, Seymour's kicking was poor and Turner made loads of yards with ball in hand.

Turner was not rubbish at all, and young Crooks did very well in defense and I thought Westy had a decent game. Seymours kicks were poor I thought he was using their f/back as target practice! and some of his passing was dire. I will agree about Heremia & Horne though.

I thought Crooks did OK in defence, but he bottled it in attack, I didn't know Tickle was injured, explains why we was woeful, I thought Seymour had a decent game with his kicking, yes he found the full back but that's all we ever get from Horne, at least he was getting the ball away, thinking back maybe Heremia put some of the betterkicks in.

It's about perception and opinion Paul.

I agree re Seymour's kicking - his long kicking was not bad at all bearing in mind he was often pretty deep in his own half he got some decent distance which allowed our chase to hit them 20-30 out. His worst kick was the one that they broke from to score - Horne is actually a better close-to-the-line kicker than Seymour. It wasn't the best kicking game but certainly not 'poor'.

Horne put a couple of good close range kicks in yesterday IIRC, what was impressive was us taking the ball out of the air, we only let it hit the floor on a few occasions, and that was the quality of the kicks from Brough.

Crooks bottled it in attack???? Where, when, how?

Seymour was kicking from bad positions I agree but the kicks were still poor. Seymour is our only creative half so he will put in bad passes along with the good ones.

Thought there was nothing in it yesterday, mistakes from both sides and Hudds have mastered the art of laying-on to perfection. What a difference when we were playing our last set and they were flying off the tackle to create a fast set, seemed strange to watch that. Mr Childs tended to reward blatant game slowing tactics by simply allowing the laying-on to happen. He becomes culpable in spoiling the spectacle of what could have been a fast flowing game.

The turning point was the Heremia try. Just when we looked devoid of ideas and a way to get back on the scoreboard he comes up with that, and we responded and found a way to finally have a bigger will to win than they did. Now we need to build on it as the tasty bit of the season unfolds.
I'm also in the camp of Westy had a good game.

He came inside a number of times, didn't back his own pace.

When I get the video I'll be able to show you what I mean (or direct you to the bit at least)

I wouldnt say bottled it, more like took a more sensible option as he was quite close to touch (would get berated if he'd have done that)

Given time he'll learn a bot more and bulk a bit to stop that happening, given the fact hes not a winger anyways

don't disagree with that.

Spot on. Hall used to try the miracle run down the line and get bundled into touch all the time. Thought he went well personally and it's all valuable game time. As for those saying we didn't play well and didn't deserve to win I'd say Hudds weren't any better and in fact I'd bet we made more clean breaks in the game. Yes we weren't great but IMO we were the slightly better side.

I remember one moment in the second half were he had a chance to go on the outside and cut inside. I don't think he bottled it but took a safety first approach. Probably down to the fact he isn't a winger and wasn't confident of having the pace or strength to go past George.

Funny game really. At times it reminded me of last year when we were clueless at times under Agar. Seymour needs a partner to help him out. I thought Whiting did ok but his lack of pace was shown in Hudds first try. Was encouraged by Nicklaus spell at hooker. He gave a few daft pens away but his passing was quick and accurate from dummy half. We need to follow the runner because when we do make the odd break there is never anyone there and I think we badly miss a 4th big prop on the bench to keep up the momentum. Overall its a win and we have played better this season and lossed.

I thought Nicklas looked out his depth, passing was very poor and during his spell we looked our poorist, as soon as Heremia comes on we seem to step up a gear.

If we need another hooker I would look to give either Cunningham or Jackson some gametime.

try snapping up young Pelissier at Catalans - he's becoming a decent hooker with a good teacher in Henderson (and Fisher) but he can't get in the first team on a regular basis - still young and getting better with each game - someone should take a chance on him IMO