Everything except the first line I think. Luckily I'd had my third cup of coffee and my sarcasm detector was just about warmed up.

where have I ever claimed a friendship with AP? I haven't, I know him and he knows me, we speak on infrequent occasion if I happen to see him, and if you think someone like AP isn't getting himself involved in signings and the general business plans then you are, quite frankly, an idiot.

It's pointless trying to debate with you because you change the basis of your opinion/argument to suit when you're being shown up as not really knowing very much, but I am sure you'll keep on doing it.

So, O'Carroll, as a player, not the length of the deal (seen as though you've flip flopped to that being the basis of your ire on the subject)

Decent enough player before his injury problems, not decent enough to throw a 3 yr deal at though especially with his injury record.
1 yr would have been better imo, see how he goes and leave yourself with options for what becomes available on the market.

Well I am happy about this signing, a young British prop and at 24 still growing (size & knowledge).

Yes he has been injured but lets face it, it was one injury not a series of lots of different injuries and it has now been treated. The last Wigan player we signed in Cameron Pelphs hasn't turned out too bad has he, in fact I think he has gone pretty well this season and I rememeber all the doom and gloom merchants on here saying the same thing about him and injuries.

Love the way he reconises the fans and also I love players with a point to prove because they can be dangerous big woot woot from me, I am excited.

Going to be another great signing. (young, British, potential)

You told me in a PM you were friends with AP.....

You really do not need to concern yourself about my knowledge, nor does any-one else on here for that matter

In defence of MM, the whole idea of the thread is for people to say what they think about the signing. She's not impressed. That doesn't mean she thinks every signing should be run by her prior to its execution, she's just expressing an opinion. Should every thread about new signings contain only positive opinions, do you think?

For what it's worth, I'm neither impressed nor unimpressed. I'm keeping an open mind. He seems to be a talented player who's had a bit of a nightmare with injuries. On that basis, 3 years is a bit of a risk, but I'd like to think that this risk has been accounted for in his contract terms. If he manages an extended injury free run, he could turn out to be just the ticket.

I don't imagine he would have come here for 1 year (unless it was extendable for a further 2 based on appearances etc).

I honestly don't know enough about him to know if he's a decent player, but if the clu wanted him, based on their assessment, and a 3 year deal was what he was after, it all seems sensible to me.

Just got a txt from a mate in Wigan who says we beat saints and widnes for his signature who all offered 3 yr deals and Bradford a 2. So some people rate him and as has been said what else is out there.

How many of them are there?

Don't think its a bad signing, a bit of a risk yes, but not a bad signing. However if i were looking for a young prop from Wigan. then the guy who has been on loan at Cas, Ben Davies would have been my target.

For the record MM (me) is only one person on this board!...nor do I have to explain any-thing...not impressed with 3 yrs due to injury record simple as!....More than happy to be proved wrong especially with my lack of knowledge and all that like

Most who know me on here will tell you 1 is more than enough