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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "
We need an attack coach and a sports psychologist at the very least, I'd say the latter is much more important than the former.'"
And I would say that the latter would be a total waste of time and money and the former may help - but only if it was the right person.
Do we really need dozens of coaches? By all means bring in specialists for certain aspects like kicking but do we want to end up like the England RU set up which has over 30 backroom staff - fat lot of good that did.
Sports psychologists in a team environment pure bull merchants. They may have some use in an individual precision sport like golf, snooker, darts for example where a steady nerve and the ability to blank out distractions certainly helps but its completely different in a fast moving team sport. Name me one successful sports psychologist who has lifted a team up and over the barriers preventing them from being champions. Instead you have mugs like Dr Steve Peters who flits from one team failure to the next while telling everyone how good he is. |
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| Quote: Erik the not red "And I would say that the latter would be a total waste of time and money and the former may help - but only if it was the right person.
Do we really need dozens of coaches? By all means bring in specialists for certain aspects like kicking but do we want to end up like the England RU set up which has over 30 backroom staff - fat lot of good that did.
Sports psychologists in a team environment pure bull merchants. They may have some use in an individual precision sport like golf, snooker, darts for example where a steady nerve and the ability to blank out distractions certainly helps but its completely different in a fast moving team sport. Name me one successful sports psychologist who has lifted a team up and over the barriers preventing them from being champions. Instead you have mugs like Dr Steve Peters who flits from one team failure to the next while telling everyone how good he is.'"
don't you dare talk sense, we need a hundred coaches and bumpy should own the club, we'd be invincible |
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| Quote: Erik the not red "And I would say that the latter would be a total waste of time and money and the former may help - but only if it was the right person.
Do we really need dozens of coaches? By all means bring in specialists for certain aspects like kicking but do we want to end up like the England RU set up which has over 30 backroom staff - fat lot of good that did.
Sports psychologists in a team environment pure bull merchants. They may have some use in an individual precision sport like golf, snooker, darts for example where a steady nerve and the ability to blank out distractions certainly helps but its completely different in a fast moving team sport. Name me one successful sports psychologist who has lifted a team up and over the barriers preventing them from being champions. Instead you have mugs like Dr Steve Peters who flits from one team failure to the next while telling everyone how good he is.'"
golden ... 
you are literally clueless. |
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| Quote: PCollinson1990 "don't you dare talk sense, we need a hundred coaches and bumpy should own the club, we'd be invincible'"
I wouldn't have a second rater as coach who is taking us nowhere fast ...
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "golden ... ![]()
And yet you can't provide any evidence of a successful sports psychologist in a team sport.
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Ive long thought we need a skills coach, we have been poor for years on basics such as passing. I dont think an attacking coach with some new ideas would be a bad thing either and there is surely more budget now with two cups wins and very strong retail sales.
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we should get her, in partnership with Rangi Chase as skills coach and Paul King as social co-ordinator, what could possibly go wrong. Add bumpy in as owner, seb as rugby manager, we'd be flying! |
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| Quote: Erik the not red "And yet you can't provide any evidence of a successful sports psychologist in a team sport.'"
There are if you'd bother to look but within a team environment it's about dealing with the individuals themselves not really the team as a whole, if you had any clue you'd know but you haven't. |
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "There are if you'd bother to look but within a team environment it's about dealing with the individuals themselves not really the team as a whole, if you had any clue you'd know but you haven't. ![]()
Really and you have such a clue that you can't name one. Surely if they were that good and vital we'd have heard about them.
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indeed, another bumpyborefest
a.b.r eh bumpy...
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| Quote: PCollinson1990 "indeed, another bumpyborefest
a.b.r eh bumpy...'"
WHY does every sodding thread in this forum have to turn in a playground ing contest?
Can you lot just grow up and start acting like adults not kids.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "www.eis2win.co.uk/expertise/psychology/
Right I'm feeling generous so I'll check your lazy google search and we find
1st All examples quoted are individual sports people and therefore totally irrelevant to what I posted,
2nd is advertising bumf pretentious jargon with no examples of successful application at all
3rd a student essay which re-circulates gobbledegook without once again providing practical proof of successful application.
4th suggests it might have a use but then brings up that discredited clown Dr Steve Peters and points to his spectacular failure in the World Cup, exceeded in its uselessness only by the Brazilians who had their own charlatan. Hardly a ringing endorsement. Do you even read your own links?
5th Advertising bumf after your cash - no verifiable evidence of success.
6th likewise
7th generalised bumf and jargon. And what a surprise no evidence of practical successful application.
8th wow you must have slipped up here as at least there examples quoted in it. The teams across the various sports that have used the psychologists do have have one startling thing in common though. The have all won absolutely nothing since that article was written, nil, zero.
Am I supposed to put a row of smilies here next?
It looks like Adam Pearson is of the same view about having a sports psychologist on the staff. He has been prepared to invest in back up which will improve the team like better training facilites, conditioning and medical support but not surprisingly is less keen on throwing away his cash on a snake oil salesman. Then again he only has a long and largely successful history in sports management so no doubt struggles to compete with your blinding knowledge.
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