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| Quote: FC Wembley 08 "Desparation gets you nowhere, it makes the problem worse!! We could put fit players in half back positions which would do better than an 'unfit' Horne. He was a major weak link in our side on Saturday and that proves the desparation tag to have blown up in Agar's face. Horne has to be in the u20s this week, do you think he will be??'"
Horne didn't play HB. He played hooker.
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| Quote: Kosh "Whether you rate Horne or not, you are in fact judging him on a single performance as reiterated in your last sentence above.
I don't know what's happening with Calderwood any more than you do. We don't even know for sure that he's 100% fit. It's possible it may have to do with his injury, or it may be something more sinister. I'd say that Horne was put straight in because of the HB situation except that our genius coach didn't use him there. Personally I'd have preferred that he had a run in the U20's to being thrown on in an unfamiliar position. I'm not going to have a go at him because of something the coach did though.'"
Horne has been average for a long time now 3yrs at least (when you can get him on the field). I agree with you about playing him out of position but clearly our 6 and 7 situation wasn't that bad if we didn't put our 'first choice' 6 there, so we shouldn't have risked it.. And no, i'm not basing it on one performance. check my posts. You'll come back with the point that IMO Richard Horne is no more than a outside squad player on an international wage. But opinions are what this board is here for, that's mine and you can have yours. We posts on here, have a light chat about it then in the end decide that i was right and we move on.
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| Quote: Kosh "Horne didn't play HB. He played hooker.'"
I know, i was just speaking in general... a fit player who usually plays a similar role is better than an unfit player in his actual role!
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| Quote: FC Wembley 08 "Horne has been average for a long time now 3yrs at least (when you can get him on the field). I agree with you about playing him out of position but clearly our 6 and 7 situation wasn't that bad if we didn't put our 'first choice' 6 there, so we shouldn't have risked it.. And no, i'm not basing it on one performance. check my posts. You'll come back with the point that IMO Richard Horne is no more than a outside squad player on an international wage. But opinions are what this board is here for, that's mine and you can have yours. We posts on here, have a light chat about it then in the end decide that i was right and we move on.
Your pitching yourself up there with Brian Clough with closing comments like that. Pi$$ed myself when I heard him say that all those years ago.
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| Quote: FC Wembley 08 "Desparation gets you nowhere, it makes the problem worse!! We could put fit players in half back positions which would do better than an 'unfit' Horne. He was a major weak link in our side on Saturday and that proves the desparation tag to have blown up in Agar's face. Horne has to be in the u20s this week, do you think he will be??'"
He was playing for short spells in a unfamiliar position on sat....like i have already said if Agar had another halfback to choose from ie Longy then Horney would have had a run out in the reserves but he hasn't so i think he will be at HB in the 1st team on thursday as there is very few options available......but Horne was not responsible for the poor performance on sat and was not the only under performer out there at least he had an excuse to be rusty unlike some of the others.
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| Quote: FC Wembley 08 "I know, i was just speaking in general... a fit player who usually plays a similar role is better than an unfit player in his actual role!'"
I agree with the general point. I'm not a fan of rushing players back or playing them when not 100% fit - I think it leads to more problems both short and long term. I understand that occasionally this is necessary but I don't like it. Ironically I think that Horne is a player who has suffered from this more than most in the past, and some of his recent fitness issues may be a direct result.
Regarding Calderwood I seem to remember something about him feeling some tenderness in his calf following his first run in the U20's. Given the severity of the injury it's possible that not playing him on Saturday was justified on grounds of not wanting to risk a setback.
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| Quote: Kosh "I agree with the general point. I'm not a fan of rushing players back or playing them when not 100% fit - I think it leads to more problems both short and long term. I understand that occasionally this is necessary but I don't like it. Ironically I think that Horne is a player who has suffered from this more than most in the past, and some of his recent fitness issues may be a direct result.
Regarding Calderwood I seem to remember something about him feeling some tenderness in his calf following his first run in the U20's. Given the severity of the injury it's possible that not playing him on Saturday was justified on grounds of not wanting to risk a setback.'"
Thank god....sense at last
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| Quote: PAUL M "Meli would be a really good signing and two years would be perfect as that allows Lyne to develop.'"
a 31 year old winger on a 2 year contract would be a cr4p signing. He'll be nicking fitz's zimmer frame
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| Quote: wolfie "yes i do,and just to add i dont see him been here next season.
and just a little tip for you,dont believe everything you read on here,also the amount of people voicing there opinions on here are just a very small percentage of our fanbase.'"
I don't think you know anything wolfster. And if you're suggesting that agar has a massive army of adoring fans then you're mistaken
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I don't think you know anything wolfster. And if you're suggesting that agar has a massive army of adoring fans then you're mistaken'"
you would be surprised what i know jakester.
and im not claiming he does have a army of adoring fans,didnt you listen to sports talk earlier?
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| Quote: wolfie "you would be surprised what i know jakester.
and im not claiming he does have a army of adoring fans,didnt you listen to sports talk earlier?'"
No, it's rubbish. Why, what happened?
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| I am listening to it now Jake because Wolfie piqued my curiosity So far it is like an Agar out thread on Radio
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| Quote: hullbg "I am listening to it now Jake because Wolfie piqued my curiosity
Might have a listen in the morning then
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| Quote: hullbg "I am listening to it now Jake because Wolfie piqued my curiosity
correct.
the james hoggarth show at 8 was better,the great man arthur bunting was on with keith tind,mick sutton,some great memories brought up by them 3.
oh yeh and me
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| Quote: wolfie "correct.
the james hoggarth show at 8 was better,the great man arthur bunting was on with keith tind,mick sutton,some great memories brought up by them 3.
oh yeh and me
Does Arthur want his job back, even now he could do a better job and show Agar a thing or two about attacking rugby
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