We're in a very similar position now to where we were this time last year, last year we were in year 2 of uncle Tony's rebuild, people were optimistic about who we'd signed and said we had to use the last two quota spots effectively and we didn't, a few top targets tuned us down and we got Okunbor and Brown, hoping it's not the same for next season with our top two targets in lam and sailor saying no thanks

Let’s just trust in the club. They are slowly getting things together and building. Much better building blocks than last year.

I'll trust the results next season. Time has taught me that this is the only real indicator of progress and success. 'The Club' has made a right show of things in the last five years or so and as much as I will always be grateful to Adam Pearson for taking the club on, there hasn't been much success. Eternal optimism is for the young and inexperienced.

These days I tend to prepare for the worst to minimise the disappointment that is almost certain to come. I will of course be overjoyed if I am proven wrong, for despite my lack of optimism or confidence I still love my club.

I don't buy this. I see us binning players off but I don't see a significant overall upgrade in quality. The only improvement is that our younger players have gained valuable experience as a result of awful recruitment and endless injuries.

As a cynic that's pretty difficult after what's gone on over the last few years.

Surely the likes of cust, Abdul, hardaker, borough and Chamberlain are getting you excited for the new season?

Let’s be honest without the ‘teaser’ of the supposed investment had we made these signings under AP and Clark people would be absolutely losing their minds. There’s no particularly bad players in who we’ve signed but I don’t think it’s out of order to say mostly journeyman and as poor as we are at the minute a few journeyman additions isn’t going to cut it.

This can all be put to bed with a couple of really top drawer signings but there’s nobody screaming out now we’ve missed out on our major targets. If there is decent money available I’m sure we’ll get there in the end with someone, hoping it’s sooner rather then later before what little optimism we’ve managed to claw back since April time is lost all together.

I think people need to realise where we are as a club and that will tell you why weve signed what weve signed. We was never going to get top signings, anyone who thought otherwise is living in dreamland.

The only thing this club as going for it at the moment is its attendances and half the players out there think we are a toxic fan base.

This will take seasons, overpriced and over lengthed contracts to get players to come to this club. Let the club deal with that and lets just try to get behind them.

Until we see the club starting to climb up the table, some positivity round the place then we will always miss out on good players.

As things stand, I think the 2025 squad is an improvement on what we currently have, but then it could hardly get much worse given the state we are in!!
But the improvement is only (very) marginal and no where near enough to make a significant difference to our prospects for next season, unless Cartwright turns out to have the Midas touch when he arrives here

A team largely made up of bottom-four average players will most likely find itself scrabbling around the bottom-four and I think that may be our fate once again, unfortunately.
Rome wasn't built in a day, as someone once said, and our rebuild is going to take time. We have a lot of mistakes to rectify and we supporters are going to need a degree of patience before we start to see some genuine green-shoots coming through. This is a long-haul back to where we all want to be.

It’s a vicious circle though, without some major event creating a lot of optimism (big signings, announcement of investment/change in ownership, great season ticket deals) I can see us down to 6-7K absolute max crowds next season, so many people are just not going to bother with it. Even if we do stabilise things on the field and climb up the table very slightly at that point we then won’t have the revenues to afford better players.

It doesnt effect the likes of Salford.

I dont think the crowds will dwindle too much either, 30 quid to get in and playing in 11th still sees crowds around 10k mark. If the boo boys go home that could be what the club needs.

You look at KR players they had now finished bottom with them and its only since theyve turned into internationals theyve attracted better players.

I more then anyone would want us to announce some top line signings but given the position we are in and the negetivity in the stands I cant see it happening until those things change. Having young kids who hurt the same as we do is the way forward but they cant play everyweek.

I know Cust isnt the greatest half back out there but he in my opinion would provide better cover then Charles and morgan smith for next year at least.

Weve got to build and it has to be small blocks at a time. When we won the cup we never struggled for a signing and im sure we will get there again.

Cartwright I believe will be an astute head coach of a signing who will raise the intensity of training and what it means to get a matchday jersey. While the young kids have being great it hasnt being difficult for them to surpass the former players in the team and that in itself can be a dangerous cycle.

When you like at Robertson at Saints he has to surpass Welsby and now Sailor. Where as Moy only had to do it to Hoy and Walker, completely differerent ball game. I think the signings we made will make us slightly more competitive and have more leaders in the group. That said I wont be booking any final tickets!

You can't have been following rugby league for very long. Back to back Cup wins in 10 years is the most success this city has seen in 40 odd years. Thank you Mr Pearson!

Club cant win, they don't sign anyone and we have Lane, Fash and Houghton starting next, so they sign some experienced players in a tough market after starting recruitment a couple of month after everyone else.

Add in the fact people don't really want to move to the city and the position the club are in, I'm not sure how we can sign better.

We have signedvone of the most influential players in SL, along with a few others who are better than our current 17.

Club have tried to sign Lam, Whitehead and Sailor who all choose to sign or stay at clubs in a much better position short term.

Not really sure who people think we should have signed, not easy making such big changes to the squad in the short term.

Overall think Myler has gone a good a job as he could, Cust is maybe the exception, but it seems to be influenced by our new coach.

New coaches can make a huge difference look at Rowley and there squad, he has got (what would have been average players) playing to their best of their ability, players like Brieley, Cross and even Watkins, who ifcwe had signed when they were available would have been heavily critisesd.

Peters is another who had got players playing their best form of their career, hopefully Cartwright can have a similar impact.

Be careful what you say the drama queens will be out in force hiding behind It's my Opinion that FC are s hite at everything

there is no way circa 10000 fans in the ground for the last coulple of home games