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| The council can sell the KC if it wants to.
What it cannot do is sell for less than it is worth. That would lead to an investigation by the District Auditor and potentially the councillors who made the decision having to pay surcharges to cover the loss.
What is the stadium worth? It cost £46m to build. That figure does not include the value of the land on which it stands and the surrounding land.
The Allams are said to be worth £180m. They have already invested £40m in Hull City. Could they afford to buy the stadium? It would mean putting over half of their total wealth into Hull City/the KC so probably not without borrowing the money, which would doubtless be secured against the stadium itself.
If the stadium is sold it does not affect Hull FC's lease. Yes they could try to buy out Hull's interest in the lease but as Hull would be under no obligation to sell the board could name its price. That price would be not less than the cost of a new home for Hull FC. How much would that be?
Any suggestion that the board could sell the lease, trouser the money and abandon the club is laughable and in doing so the directors would certainly be in breach of their duties under the Companies Act 2006.
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| Quote: Nobeerineasthull "
The council can sell the KC if it wants to.'"
It can?
From where do you deduce that?
Quote: Nobeerineasthull "What it cannot do is sell for less than it is worth. That would lead to an investigation by the District Auditor and potentially the councillors who made the decision having to pay surcharges to cover the loss.'"
See above
Quote: Nobeerineasthull "What is the stadium worth? It cost £46m to build. That figure does not include the value of the land on which it stands and the surrounding land.'"
See above
Quote: Nobeerineasthull "The Allams are said to be worth £180m. They have already invested £40m in Hull City. Could they afford to buy the stadium? It would mean putting over half of their total wealth into Hull City/the KC so probably not without borrowing the money, which would doubtless be secured against the stadium itself. '"
See above but as a caveat, what fantasy world do you live in where these deals are done without finance? The Allams would not be expected to turn up with a suitcase full of notes. I seriously doubt that they'd even be required to offer personal guarantees. I'd also be surprised if they funded the purchase of Hull City from their own wealth.
Quote: Nobeerineasthull "If the stadium is sold it does not affect Hull FC's lease. Yes they could try to buy out Hull's interest in the lease but as Hull would be under no obligation to sell the board could name its price. That price would be not less than the cost of a new home for Hull FC. How much would that be?'"
see my 1st reply
Quote: Nobeerineasthull "Any suggestion that the board could sell the lease, trouser the money and abandon the club is laughable and in doing so the directors would certainly be in breach of their duties under the Companies Act 2006.
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As above
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| Quote: jeffers#1 "can seriously see this happening. With the council having there budgets cut, i think they will see this as a no brainer. I hope i'm wrong though'"
And what would they do with the money?
Have you read the thread or are you just going by what the dailywail has to say?
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| Quote: cod'ead "I would imagine some very robust covenants are attached to the KC, to prevent a sale to a private concern. The money from Kingston Communications was only released for capital projects so I doubt the legality of now taking a profit and applying that to cover any shortfall in the revenue account.
Mind you, given the previous of the incumbent government & Cllr Minge, they'd flog anything, that stood still long enough, to anyone with a promise of dosh.'"
What do you [iknow[/i about the covenants attached to the KC as opposed to what you [iimagine[/i?
The fact that there [imay[/i be restrictions about what the council could do with the proceeds of sale would not prevent a sale itself.
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| Quote: Nobeerineasthull "What do you [iknow[/i about the covenants attached to the KC as opposed to what you [iimagine[/i?
The fact that there [imay[/i be restrictions about what the council could do with the proceeds of sale would not prevent a sale itself.'"
Time for bed sunshine, let the adults play now
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| Would the council have a duty to sell to the highest bidder and put it on the open market to bring the best return for the residents of Hull?
Why should the Allems have a sole bid and would that be legal?
If the council are going to sell theres a lot of questions to be asked Will the Allems in five/six years time after losing money, getting bored of there project sell to any one with big bucks.
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| What if the council see the sale of the KC as a way of funding a new stadium east of the city.
They are often criticised for what seems to be a favouring of Hull FC by building a stadium that houses them and Hull City, not a problem while HKR were in the lower division but now it looks like unfair treatment of the City's professional teams.
If the council sold the KC with assurances that both RL and football will be safe in their tenure they could than use some of that money to build another iconic stadium for HKR and in the process make the city of Hull the envy of many other cities accross the country.
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| Quote: The Clan "What if the council see the sale of the KC as a way of funding a new stadium east of the city.
They are often criticised for what seems to be a favouring of Hull FC by building a stadium that houses them and Hull City, not a problem while HKR were in the lower division but now it looks like unfair treatment of the City's professional teams.
If the council sold the KC with assurances that both RL and football will be safe in their tenure they could than use some of that money to build another iconic stadium for HKR and in the process make the city of Hull the envy of many other cities accross the country.'"
I think underwriting a loan to extend Craven Park is sufficient dont you?, and has often been pointed out, City & FC pay rent to use the stadium, so they've hardly been "given" it.
Not to mention that having 2 stadiums is hardly going to make Hull the envy of other cities
Also not to mention that HKR were offered tenancy at the KC and declined it.
And finally if, as some claim, the KC is going to be sold to pay of "debts" or even fund other shortfalls, do you really think building another stadium is going to be high on the list of priorities not withstanding the fact it would be political suicide?
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| Quote: We are pleased to reassure everybody connected with Hull FC that the continuing, productive relationship with the rugby league club as tenants of the stadium is very much part of the future plan. "Ehab reassured Hull FC, and their army of fans, that the rugby club's future at the KC Stadium is secure.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "rlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Allams-vision-city-forefront-sport/article-3082983-detail/article.htmlrl'"
This was never in doubt, Hull FC will remain tenants for as long as they please. The only problem for Hull will be having 12,000 people sat in a 38,000 seater stadium. The atmosphere will be mute.
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| Quote: Nobeerineasthull "
Any suggestion that the board could sell the lease, trouser the money and abandon the club is laughable and in doing so the directors would certainly be in breach of their duties under the Companies Act 2006.'"
Which section? Cant be bothered to root through my books for it
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| Quote: Eric The Viking "This was never in doubt, Hull FC will remain tenants for as long as they please. The only problem for Hull will be having 12,000 people sat in a 38,000 seater stadium. The atmosphere will be mute.'"
At least we'll be dry and have a reasonable view of the pitch
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