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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: thehullwhitestar "What would the Saints fans think if he went there and took Cusack, Byrne and Dykes with him ???

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "That's lame, far worse done by many many Hull coaches in the past & has been said this was as much of Briscoes doing as was the boards.
I seem to remember even the great Arthur Bunting telling the players they were doing poop against York way back(I know because the players told my aunt who worked at the club back then), when they were cruising at something like 20-0 at half time and the players decided to do just the very minimum & York almost pegged us back. So even the best coaches make mistakes!
So dont go slagging a good coach off for something that was not directly his fault.

Personally I still feel getting rid of Sharpe was a poor decision by the board, people saying he took us back 10 years talk utter tosh as the side of 1996-1997 would never have done what the side under his charge did!'"
Peter Sharpe withdrew the contract that was offered originally. you can't get more direct than that.

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Quote: major black "Neither do I dave, All I know my thoughts of him are of the pillock who let Briscoe go.'"


My understanding of the situation was he wanted to keep him but a certain person at the top said no to the deal to keep him.

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Quote: Big Dave T "I think getting rid of Sharp was the correct decision, however i'm baffled that a worse coach gets an extension with the club since then.'"


The issue is that since mcrae left we've had progressively worse coaches

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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: Jake the Peg "The issue is that since mcrae left we've had progressively worse coaches'"


Mcrae wasnt that good either......had arguably our best squads but couldnt do anything with them.....never won a play-off match under Mcrae or got to a major final.......the worse coaches since him have took us to Finals and play-off wins.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "The issue is that since mcrae left we've had progressively worse coaches'"


At least Walrus Chops talked a good game , some of the others that followed never managed that.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "The issue is that since mcrae left we've had progressively worse coaches'"


Agree.

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Quote: major black "Peter Sharpe withdrew the contract that was offered originally. you can't get more direct than that.'"

The contract offer expired while Briscoe waited to see if he could get a better offer. I have no problem with him doing that - it's a short career after all - but all the angst following a simple set of business decisions is tedious TBH.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Would be interesting to see what happened if he went there. IMO he'd have to try a different approach to the safety-first rugby we played under him, as I can't see Saints fans standing for that even if they were winning. Whatever good points he had as a coach, I'd struggle to ever imagine a team of his being tagged 'The Entertainers'.'"

The safety-first rugby was a direct response to having no playmakers in the side after Cooke walked out. On the few occasions when we managed to have a reasonably fit half back pairing we played some good stuff.

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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: Kosh "The safety-first rugby was a direct response to having no playmakers in the side after Cooke walked out. On the few occasions when we managed to have a reasonably fit half back pairing we played some good stuff.'"



Once we got Head in we had a play-maker again and we looked good.....he took us to 4th that yr after Cooke,Swain and Domic went and we only went out narrowly to Wigan in a game we should have won......Took a risk with Dykes that didnt work.......he was unlucky to go and wouldnt say he is a worse coach...he was betterthan Agar and Kear imo.

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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: Kosh "The contract offer expired while Briscoe waited to see if he could get a better offer. I have no problem with him doing that - it's a short career after all - but all the angst following a simple set of business decisions is tedious TBH.'"



Briscoe got some crap advice off his agent and paid the penalty with us......the way it worked maybe was better choice as his form has gone this season.

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Did Peter Sharp sign Willie Manu?

Alot of his overseas signings just werent good enough for a team that was top 4 challenging at the time IMO.

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Quote: knocker norton "Did Peter Sharp sign Willie Manu?

Alot of his overseas signings just werent good enough for a team that was top 4 challenging at the time IMO.'"


Yes. His signing was announced the week of the 2006 Grand Final.

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Quote: knocker norton "Did Peter Sharp sign Willie Manu?

Alot of his overseas signings just werent good enough for a team that was top 4 challenging at the time IMO.'"


I had my doubts too (thought it was Kear), but it was Sharp:
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 033047.stm

Also must have been Sharp in charge when Crocker signed, as the signing was announced the day after Agar took over:
www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby/200 ... -20432999/

Nonetheless, Sharp's signings were a mixed bag at best.
Quote: knocker norton "Did Peter Sharp sign Willie Manu?

Alot of his overseas signings just werent good enough for a team that was top 4 challenging at the time IMO.'"


I had my doubts too (thought it was Kear), but it was Sharp:
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 033047.stm

Also must have been Sharp in charge when Crocker signed, as the signing was announced the day after Agar took over:
www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby/200 ... -20432999/

Nonetheless, Sharp's signings were a mixed bag at best.


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IIRC Sharp signed:

Tickle, Sing, Manu, Godwin, Maiava, Head, Dykes, Berrigan, Byrne, Cusack and Crocker. He also gave debuts to Houghton, Hall, Briscoe and Burnett.

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