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Quote: Homenaway "Spot on (well, the bit I can understand!)

I couldn't make it to Warrington today, but was at Wigan last week. Take out Danny Houghton's amazing tackle count each week and there's a lot of tackles to make up for the rest of the team. That, in my opinion, is why we're fading in the second half of games.'"


No idea what or how I wrote that, only had one beer this afternoon icon_surprised.gifops:

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Quote: Homenaway "Spot on (well, the bit I can understand!)

I couldn't make it to Warrington today, but was at Wigan last week. Take out Danny Houghton's amazing tackle count each week and there's a lot of tackles to make up for the rest of the team. That, in my opinion, is why we're fading in the second half of games.'"

I agree. But we better get used to it - isn't he 6 weeks off? Was Green rotated today or is he injured? I'd give Taylor a rest against Salford as well, need him big time over Easter.

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We got 3 out of 4 points from Wigan and Wire away after not playing to our full potential.
On another note, the middle eights looks like it's going to contain a couple of pretty powerful Super League teams.

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Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?:



Green out with a back injury.

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Quote: Irregular Hoops "We got 3 out of 4 points from Wigan and Wire away after not playing to our full potential.
On another note, the middle eights looks like it's going to contain a couple of pretty powerful Super League teams.'"

Wakey chipping away aren't they and Salford going well.

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Tough league and going to be a really tough middle 8's, even Widnes aren't as bad as some are making out, picked up points in tough away games and ran Wigan close, have key players out who should be back for middle 8's.

Think Catalans will sack their coach this week.

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2 hours to get there from Leeds, M62 a bloody nightmare again. Came off early and went up the East Lancs Road.

Should have won that game but another thriller and hung on for the draw. 3 points from those 2 games I'd take all day.

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Quote: Irregular Hoops "Not playing great but still picking up points.
How did Litten go today?'"


Looked lively when he came on, some good scoots, but passing a bit suspect.

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Quote: Homenaway "Spot on (well, the bit I can understand!)

I couldn't make it to Warrington today, but was at Wigan last week. Take out Danny Houghton's amazing tackle count each week and there's a lot of tackles to make up for the rest of the team. That, in my opinion, is why we're fading in the second half of games.'"


Yes we will miss Danny Houghton but he is not the reason why we are fading.We dropped the ball twice on zero tackle in crucial defensive positions and gave away silly penalties again.
There is only so much defending you can do under pressure before the line cracks.
When you look at the game Warrington made several crucial errors and gave us our points in the first half rather than us creating the position and putting on pressure.
We have to start building and maintaining pressure in the opposition 20 rather than looking at teams gifting us points or a piece of magic from Albert Kelly otherwise i can see both Salford and Leeds turning us over at home.
Griffin is also a liability in defence.

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3 out of 4 against wires and wigan is not to bad whatever position there in, best defense in the league and 1 point of the top, challenge cup holders to boot and yet some still bicker amongst themselves lol,

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Quote: bonaire "Yes we will miss Danny Houghton but he is not the reason why we are fading.We dropped the ball twice on zero tackle in crucial defensive positions and gave away silly penalties again.
There is only so much defending you can do under pressure before the line cracks.
When you look at the game Warrington made several crucial errors and gave us our points in the first half rather than us creating the position and putting on pressure.
We have to start building and maintaining pressure in the opposition 20 rather than looking at teams gifting us points or a piece of magic from Albert Kelly otherwise i can see both Salford and Leeds turning us over at home.
Griffin is also a liability in defence.'"


Agreed - we are making too many mistakes, but keeping pace in the league (today - just!) I'm confident that as the season progresses we'll start to find our feet attacking-wise and hopefully will eradicate the stupid mistakes. that's how Radders earns his crust!

Regarding Warrington's mistakes, that's all part and parcel of the game. A fair proportion of of all games' tries could be seen that way. As others have said, we'd have taken this position at the start of the season and we can only get better (can't we?!!)

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Disappointed we failed for the 2nd game running to kill off the oppostion after opening a decent lead in the 1st half only to see us be our own worst enemy and let the opposition back in.
On the flip side i'd have taken 3pts from a possible 4 with away games at Wigan & Warrington and all this whilst still not really playing well for 80mins only for periods at a time in games.
Main worry is still the lack of ball retention at times and stupid penalties we are giving away.

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Quote: bonaire "Yes we will miss Danny Houghton but he is not the reason why we are fading.We dropped the ball twice on zero tackle in crucial defensive positions and gave away silly penalties again.
There is only so much defending you can do under pressure before the line cracks.
When you look at the game Warrington made several crucial errors and gave us our points in the first half rather than us creating the position and putting on pressure.
We have to start building and maintaining pressure in the opposition 20 rather than looking at teams gifting us points or a piece of magic from Albert Kelly otherwise i can see both Salford and Leeds turning us over at home.
Griffin is also a liability in defence.'"

Surely the build-up to Kelly's try was building and maintaining pressure in the opposition 20?

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Quote: Chris71 "Disappointed we failed for the 2nd game running to kill off the oppostion after opening a decent lead in the 1st half only to see us be our own worst enemy and let the opposition back in.
On the flip side i'd have taken 3pts from a possible 4 with away games at Wigan & Warrington and all this whilst still not really playing well for 80mins only for periods at a time in games.
Main worry is still the lack of ball retention at times and stupid penalties we are giving away.'"

I thought we overplayed at times today and were pressurising the Warrington line well in the first half. We then went too conservative in the second half IMO. Main concern right now is the length of Houghton's absence in a critical period.

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Quote: hull2524 "3 out of 4 against wires and wigan is not to bad whatever position there in, best defense in the league and 1 point of the top, challenge cup holders to boot and yet some still bicker amongst themselves lol,'"


No one is bickering that Ive seen so not sure where you get that from?

Beginning of season before a ball is passed or kicked yes we would have taken that but we are now running with the big boys and able to compete and beat them.

So to lose commanding leads against a severely understrength Wigan and a misfiring low on confidence Warrington is disappointing this season and shouldn't be happening. Whether it's a mental issue I know not but to be the best we have to be continually consistent which I believe we can be.
Pleased with the Wigan victory but disappointed and frustrated with the result today.

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