What a absolute load of bulle.

My views on Reece Dean are well known, I'm not going to bother repeating them.

The club have offered those they wanted to keep deals. Deals that are fair and transparent and consistent across our youth. The minute we change that for one player that's had one good year we open the door for every flash in the pan.

Those that don't want to be part of this, well, don't let the door hit your on the way out.

Think we are building a strong culture at the club now. The best way to continue to do that is to have a fair and equitable pay structure.
We will lose some players along the way, but I'd rather that than continue as we have been over the recent past . We seem to have a real camaraderie on the field now, and that can't be happening by accident.

Dean is interesting Toronto and cas are interested in htw what I've heard earlier

Craig Hall lined up for Toronto as well.

Would be disappointing to lose any young players, but a workable and fair pay structure has been needed for years.
Have to trust the club in this one.

What stand do you sit in??? Lol

As htw and dean were being touted as our future HB partnership it would be disappointing if they both leave but I guess if we have this wage structure we can't bend it even for the brightest talent even if it means them walking out the door

I wonder if them that see these lads day in day out think that they will make it??

Presumably they do with dean or they wouldn't have offered him another contract. Are you saying HTW won't make it and the club aren't offering him a new contract?

I agree after all the time we've spent on them , but if we start paying them more it will only cause problems further down the line . Hopefully one of them will stay , seems to me like Reece is just going were the money is which I think is wrong at his age , but if it suits him .. I wonder if the reason either of them hasn't played first team yet is just down to radders thinking there not ready yet or that if they had , there contracts would be worth more to them .

I'm not saying anything pal, I just don't know if they will make the next step, we've seen it all before local talent fade away. Or kids think they're better then what they are.

A shame that this thread seems to have been dominated by the news that Dean is leaving rather than that Turgut, Litten, Fash, Downs, Matongo and Osborne are signed up.

Hope Dean and HTW will make top players, however as yet neither has made any contribution to the first team whatsoever (barring one brief sub app for HTW in 2014).

For me in such circumstances the club should be paying them a basic living wage while investing heavily in their development through the best training, coaching, advice etc, so giving them the best possible chance of achieving their potential.

As far as I know this is what Wigan have been doing for ages, producing far more talent for themselves and others (Widnes!) than any other club has done.

Surely as a young aspiring player you want the best inputs into your development, not a few extra grand a year. The financial rewards will come once/if you make it as a regular first grader or better, as that is when you have started to generate some value for your club.

If a player who is yet to play first grade thinks he will get better investment in his development elsewhere then fair enough, but if his first priority is the best financial offer then long term we're better off without him, just like we're better off without Westerman and Lineham...

I'm not sure that paying a better prospect a bit more will cause any problems further down the line other than having to maybe shell out more in the long run for a player developed by another club if you let your own go. Sticking rigidly to a wage structure seems too inflexible to me and you need to be recognising talent - I'm not saying this isn't being done as I don't have enough knowledge of the club's wage structure to know.

We're not talking vast sums of money here, a couple of grand or so a year is pretty inconsequential.

Now it may be that the club just don't rate the players in question that highly in which case it's fair enough

A great point.
The young players that have signed up have shown their commitment to the black and white . Hopefully they can develop together into the first team. If they have all come through the system together, it can only help the team spirit in the future.