I was just thinking the same. In terms of speed of play creativity and coaching we are far behind Leigh on current form.

Did they play last night? What about the other 30 players?

The common ground is that we're all disappointed and we all want better. Close minded means that you're unable to see the bigger picture, other factors that are involved, and an inability to move from an opinion. I think a lot of the 'happy clappers' on here are people who are sick of the constant negativity from other posters, rather than being happy at the clubs situation.

I'd describe myself as a disappointed clapper, rather than a happy one.

I think they'll cause a lot of teams issues as they have a mixture of aggression in the forwards and pace in the backs

Leigh come in for a bit of criticism with the style they play but as mentioned above , A very good mixture that works well for them and entertaining as well.

Is there any stats available from last nights game?

Have you asked them all?

Yes sent them all an email and they all said you must be joking

I agree, his best days are behind him, but, IMO he's not as bad as you make out.

I agree, but as I said, I just think he's not as bad as some are making him out to be.

Compared to what moon and watkins offer leeds I think he probably is

maybe not as bad as some make out, but he shouldn't be our first choice centre next year,

Again, I agree.

Those 2 things particularly baffled me. On the half hour mark after another Westerman error, Radford got up from his seat and for a minute looked like he was going to make his way down to the bench. I honestly thought at that point Westerman was going to be taken off for a spell (and he should have been, IMO).