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Quote: Big Dave T "And thats the crux of the arguement really. I'd favour using a player in their best position in the 17 even with a guy starting who's not a recognised hooker. You wouldn't i think is the summary!
An accurate summary. I just think that Houghton should play as many minutes as he can effectively managed, the best way to do that being him starting the game and only coming off when he starts to flag. Starting with Washbrook not only weakens the starting lineup, it also means possible wasted game time from Houghton, which we can't afford IMO.

It seems I don't think there's as much difference in Houghton's perfromances from the start or from the bench as you do, nor have as much confidence in the job Washbrook can do there. I think it will take a while and a fair bit of work from Washbrook to look like a hooker, if he ever can.

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Berrigan is a Clive Churchill medal winner, former SOO, NRL Grand Final winning Hooker, only Hull FC and it's fans would end up shoving him back in the centres.
He's twice the Hooker Houghton is.

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Quote: east hull FC fan "Berrigan is a Clive Churchill medal winner, former SOO, NRL Grand Final winning Hooker, only Hull FC and it's fans would end up shoving him back in the centres.
He's twice the Hooker Houghton is.'"


They're the same ones who claim he isn't very good but ignore the fact that he's been playing with shiite players and no game plan since he arrived

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Quote: east hull FC fan "Berrigan is a Clive Churchill medal winner, former SOO, NRL Grand Final winning Hooker, only Hull FC and it's fans would end up shoving him back in the centres.
He's twice the Hooker Houghton is.'"

Quote: east hull FC fan "They're the same ones who claim he isn't very good but ignore the fact that he's been playing with shiite players and no game plan since he arrived'"


I've always been an advocate of Berrigan, and still think he is the best hooker at the club given the right tactics. However, I can see the merits in him playing centre, as he is also the best centre we have, and I don't see us ever playing the type of rugby to get the best from him at hooker under Agar.

All I'm saying is that should Berrigan be in the centres next season, Houghton should be starting ahead of Washbrook.

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Quote: carl_spackler "I've always been an advocate of Berrigan, and still think he is the best hooker at the club given the right tactics. However, I can see the merits in him playing centre, as he is also the best centre we have, and I don't see us ever playing the type of rugby to get the best from him at hooker under Agar.

All I'm saying is that should Berrigan be in the centres next season, Houghton should be starting ahead of Washbrook.'"


Agree fully. If we sign Monaghan, Berro could be centre and back-up hooker, with Yeamo on the bench.

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Quote: WormInHand "Agree fully. If we sign Monaghan, Berro could be centre and back-up hooker, with Yeamo on the bench.'"

Latest rumour is Bradford trying to offload Hall to bring in Monaghan.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Latest rumour is Bradford trying to offload Hall to bring in Monaghan.'"



Tut, Bulls schmulz. Another greedy club. [iHow[/i many signings? eusa_snooty.gif

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Quote: WormInHand "Tut, Bulls schmulz. Another greedy club. [iHow[/i many signings? TBF they made quite a few last season. Every year I tip them for a big improvement and they don't deliver. So I'm tipping them for a big improvement in 2011. icon_wink.gif

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I feel a bit cross about Monaghan. I'd somehow managed to convince myself he was ours icon_sad.gif

And this time around, Bulls have offloaded their young English coach to our hugely successful new England team and have Potter. Could be the difference in 2011 for them.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Every year I tip them for a big improvement and they don't deliver. So I'm tipping them for a big improvement in 2011.
Same here icon_lol.gif

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Quote: east hull FC fan "Berrigan is a Clive Churchill medal winner, former SOO, NRL Grand Final winning Hooker, only Hull FC and it's fans would end up shoving him back in the centres.
He's twice the Hooker Houghton is.'"


Not last season he wasn't or even the year before that.

What position did Berrigan play when he won the Clive Churhill medal?

For what ever reason apart from his first season he hasn't performed for Hull (who cares about what he did is the NRL, it's no good to us) in the hooking position, looked a lot better at centres last season.

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Quote: Dave K. "Not last season he wasn't or even the year before that.

What position did Berrigan play when he won the Clive Churhill medal?

For what ever reason apart from his first season he hasn't performed for Hull (who cares about what he did is the NRL, it's no good to us) in the hooking position, looked a lot better at centres last season.'"
He won it at Hooker.

He played in the centres for 2 games last season IIRC, so that's 3 times in all his Hull career. Hardly basis for an informed opinion. Houghton was very average last season until Berrigan got injured at Leeds (something a lot forget), when Berrigan came back he [ihad[/i to play in the backs due to Whiting's injury.
Berrigan suffers from one problem it seems, he's not Richard Swain.

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Quote: east hull FC fan "He won it at Hooker.

He played in the centres for 2 games last season IIRC, so that's 3 times in all his Hull career. Hardly basis for an informed opinion. Houghton was very average last season until Berrigan got injured at Leeds (something a lot forget), when Berrigan came back he [ihad[/i to play in the backs due to Whiting's injury.
Berrigan suffers from one problem it seems, he's not Richard Swain.'"



Name at least 3 games where Berrigan has not being average at Hooker...imo he has not looked like a first class player in any position since playing for Hull FC.

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Quote: east hull FC fan "He won it at Hooker.

He played in the centres for 2 games last season IIRC, so that's 3 times in all his Hull career. Hardly basis for an informed opinion. Houghton was very average last season until Berrigan got injured at Leeds (something a lot forget), when Berrigan came back he [ihad[/i to play in the backs due to Whiting's injury.
Berrigan suffers from one problem it seems, he's not Richard Swain.'"


His form apart from the first season has nothing but average, no where near good enough for a player with his experience and wage, if he plays there next season he really needs to step up.

Houghton form improved when he got more minutes and teh starting hooking position, to me it looks like Berrigan was holding him back.

On paper Berrigan maybe a better hooker but he hasn't shown in the last 2 years.

Berrigan also didn't get moved to centre to cover whiting, Whiitng got injured before we started to play Berrigan at centre, he was moved there to replace Turner.

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