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Quote: Dave K. "The fact that we are still thinking about keeping Aspinwall and Mcgoldrick worries me.

Both did a decent job, but are not the type of players to take us to the next level, there places (as squad players) should be taken by young players like Kent and Shaul.

I still have lots of faith in Gentle (more than anyone) to bring us the right type of players we need to push on.'"

Don't get me wrong I have a lot of faith in Gentle and AP has done a great job bringing him in, plus the other work he has done with the club, however I am concerned that the spin is becoming a joke.
What has happened to the new 2 players named every week ?

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Quote: Bet Lynch "Great contribution that...'"

Over your head?

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Quote: Big Brother "Aspinwall would be a fantastic squad player to keep, im with Paul M ffs people moaning because this hasn't come off , or he hasn't come in, rome wasn't built overnight, ther club have moved heaven and earth to make chase happen, and it hasn been outside of our hands that will stop us from getting him

AP has invested heavily in all sorts of other areas off the pitch, in rehab,academy,coaching,young wilson to aussie which cost the club around 30k to send,transfer fees for watts,pitts etc

Or we can go back yo the old regime with the constant penny pinching, and lies like oh we payed a fee for westerman, but by the way we won't tell the fans we haven't spent full cap this year thats were the trsansfer fee come from

I know who i would rather have at the helm

In Adam We Trust'"

I do not disagree that Aspi is a good squad player, however no way should we be relying on a get out clause to keep him!! some-one has fecked up.

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Quote: Big Brother "Aspinwall would be a fantastic squad player to keep, im with Paul M ffs people moaning because this hasn't come off , or he hasn't come in, rome wasn't built overnight, ther club have moved heaven and earth to make chase happen, and it hasn been outside of our hands that will stop us from getting him

AP has invested heavily in all sorts of other areas off the pitch, in rehab,academy,coaching,young wilson to aussie which cost the club around 30k to send,transfer fees for watts,pitts etc

Or we can go back yo the old regime with the constant penny pinching, and lies like oh we payed a fee for westerman, but by the way we won't tell the fans we haven't spent full cap this year thats were the trsansfer fee come from

I know who i would rather have at the helm

In Adam We Trust'"


Totally agree, the money that he has spent on the youth and training facilities alone must be massive.

I do with with some others though, he has said things in the press that have got the fans hopes up, this may not have been intentional but he has still done it.

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Not sure where Aspinwall fits in when we already have:

O Meley
Lynch
PJ
Watts
Green
Bowden
Westy
Galea
Ellis
Tickle
Whiting
Kent
Heremia

Plus a couple of other youngsters coming through, like Hadley and Wilson.

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Quote: Bet Lynch "Why is it appalling ? the spin coming out of the club is no better than the last regime. Regarding bringing quality in so far the only real quality for me is Ellis & Holdsworth, we have lost more quality than we have gained so far imo, we only had 2 players make the International side and 1 of those is Ellis. The fans were told we would spend to make us a challenging side and it now appears we are relying on a get out clause so that Aspinwall does not go to Leigh! who fecked that one up then ?'"


It's not just about players is it, what about infrastructure, facilities, promoting young players, coaching staff etc etc. AP has lifted us out of the gutter and give us reason to believe again. If the fact that we have missed out on the odd player like Chase or Paea slants you view on him then so be it.

To me it's appalling.

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Quote: Bet Lynch "Don't get me wrong I have a lot of faith in Gentle and AP has done a great job bringing him in, plus the other work he has done with the club, however I am concerned that the spin is becoming a joke.
What has happened to the new 2 players named every week ?'"



AP does seem to have built up fans expectations to record levels so I suppose it was inevitable that there would be some disappointment.

As for the "two signings a week for a month", we've had .....two....one....one...none....I think ? Does that leave four more signings?

The Aspinwall story today has suggested that "our squad is nearly complete for 2013" which seems a little odd given what we've been told for the last few weeks.

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Quote: Kosh "<Inigo Montoya Mode>You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.</Inigo Montoya Mode>'"

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Quote: thehullwhitestar " The Aspinwall story today has suggested that "our squad is nearly complete for 2013" which seems a little odd given what we've been told for the last few weeks.'"


Maybe it is nearly complete, but we are yet to learn of who else has signed. Remember if we aren't getting chase, then we have a substantial salary chunk there to be used - but it sounds to me that we are saving a wedge for another half-back.

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Quote: PAUL M "It's not just about players is it, what about infrastructure, facilities, promoting young players, coaching staff etc etc. AP has lifted us out of the gutter and give us reason to believe again. If the fact that we have missed out on the odd player like Chase or Paea slants you view on him then so be it.

To me it's appalling.'"

I think every-one recognizes the contribution that AP has brought to the club, however to raise concerns about our recruitment & retention & constant spin should hardly be classed as appalling imo.

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Quote: Bet Lynch "I think every-one recognizes the contribution that AP has brought to the club, however to raise concerns about our recruitment & retention & constant spin should hardly be classed as appalling imo.'"

What constant spin?

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Quote: Bet Lynch "I think every-one recognizes the contribution that AP has brought to the club, however to raise concerns about our recruitment & retention & constant spin should hardly be classed as appalling imo.'"


not worth arguing Bet

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Quote: Kosh "What constant spin?'"

How we will spend whatever it costs to bring in quality players

Agents banging the door down

4 top halfbacks we will have 2 of those

2 signings released over a month

Chase deal set a deadline at the end of the month

Aspi to leave, oh no wait we may want to keep doh he signed for Leigh now! hopefully we can use a get out clause

Are just a few that spring to mind...

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Quote: PAUL M "The attitude of some fans is appalling. Do we need a SH yes, AP knows this and thought we had chase sorted. He has improved us massively so far and delivered some quality players and a top coach. Yet fans still are not happy.

I'm disappointed about as yet no SH but, since when do we demand silverware?'"

Completely agree. Is our recruitment done? No. Have we got plenty of cap space left? Yes. Has investment been made in key areas? Yes. Is our coach delivering an improvement? Yes. Has AP been too bullish in his statements? Yes.

Some of this thread's main visitors are becoming a bit transparent. When 87% of your posts are mithering and stirring about Chase and the only games you comment on are ones on Sky, the troll alarm is triggered. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: PAUL M "It's not just about players is it, what about infrastructure, facilities, promoting young players, coaching staff etc etc. AP has lifted us out of the gutter and give us reason to believe again. If the fact that we have missed out on the odd player like Chase or Paea slants you view on him then so be it.

To me it's appalling.'"



Why's it appalling? Fans have different views and ideology!

Fact is AP has gone on record 'stating this' and 'claiming that' and so far the things that matter to lots of fans (and especially the stay away fans) have not come true. A lot of fans don't give a flying toss what infrastructure or facilities we have, it's all about the squad and the big names so we can compete with Wigan, Leeds and Warrington for silverware.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not about doom and gloom, I'm looking forward to next year and I do think we'll be up there again, I'm happy with most things that's goin on, my only problem was that we were built up so very much and it feels like we've come crashing back down to reality.... Something that we have been used to the last number of years.

AP wants to sell 10k passs and at the moment this is looking like its going to be hard work.

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