Yep and the club either just don't seem to learn or are that interested. At a time when things have been poor on the field for long enough and AP has openly said he needs the fans you'd think even someone with a low IQ would have the foresight to engage with its core fan base at the very least.

So on to Saturday its looking like it could be

Litten
Martin
Sutcliffe
Carlos
McIntosh
Hoy
Smith
Ese'ese
N Brown
Sao
Okunbor
Staveley
Lane

Balmforth
Bullock
Brown
Gardiner/Charles

Hope that's not the case but if so then I agree the club is a shambles, and lacking any guts. Honestly even though I have a pass I am seriously considering just calling it a day as I'm so disillusioned with not just the sport but the club I've followed for 45 years. Just feels like as fans we are just getting the proverbial pee extracted.
Any glimpse of hope or optimism I get just gets whipped away either by the club or the RFL and just about had enough.

Would love Pearson amd Clarke to front up and organise a fans forum. Don't have a fans committee to push this do we?

Think most of us would but just can't see it happening as that means engaging with the life blood of the club. Just feels like AP has lost interest and we are just treading water on the field like the bad old days of Uncle Kath.

so glad i don`t travel from edinburgh anymore,to watch this shambles.

The closest we will get to a fans forum will be an AP article in Hull Live telling us 'we need to stick together'.

Can't wait for a McNamara master class 2 trys, 6 goals and MOTM.

And Dwyer running us ragged from dummy half?

"We've got 12 players over 6ft6 from the NRL signed up for 2025 with 1000 NRL games, 100 state of origin games and 50 international appearances between them, we'll announce them just after the season ticket discount deadline... honest"

Sadly I couldn’t agree more, 22+ years for me. Just come back from Catalans and got the other booked but can’t see me doing anymore away games. I don’t even wanna go to the home games to be honest.

You’re not the only one Chris.

Many feel the same and are on the brink.

Don’t think I would be too bothered if Adam said he was closing the club down and would cease to exist.

It would take the decision out of my hands.

The weird thing is most weeks there's a story on Hull Live where Dan T asks about who's due back and when so God knows why Smith hasn't mentioned Pele's injury.

We really need a morale boosting win and performance on Saturday because over the next month we could be out of the Cup and coming off the back of another derby loss.

That’s odd, I’ve just read a HDM article posted 5 minutes ago saying they are challenging it. I’d tend to believe it since it had quotes from Tony Smith in it questioning the decision to ban Ashworth.

Aaron Bower says we are appealing against the severity of the charge and John Davison says were are contesting the "band" - I'm not sure if he meant to put "ban" or if he means the grading.

I’m assuming they’ll be trying to get it downgraded to a B and take a one game ban. Although it doesn’t warrant any ban.