I could only follow the game intermitently on social media as I was away until today.

Seems like a decent effort but in vain in the end. I know we havw had a few golden point wins in recent seasons like Wigan away and Catalans away but it's a poor way to lose a game. If it must be kept why not two points for the win and one for a defeat so in other words a draw at the end of eighty minutes and a bonus point for the winning score.

It is, of course, absolute nonsense to suggest that we have nothing to play for in terms of the play offs.We can still make them even if we lose at St Helens. Clearly we'll have a better idea after the Warrington game but win that and we still have a decent chance and then as we saw in 2020, Rovers in 2021 and Salford in 2022 you can finish sixth, win a one off away game in the play offs and be eighty minutes away from Old Trafford.

Going back to golden point it's interesting to note that we have not yet scored a drop goal this season and we only kicked two last year (Connor and Gale). If we are to sign an overseas half back hopefully it'll be one with this skill.

I've thought this ever since golden-point was introduced to league games. If you are level after 80 minutes then a team should get some reward as technically they haven't lost.

I understand the modern-day need for sport to have a winner and loser come what may, and in cup football/rugby there is a need to remove replays out of the calendar given the concern with player welfare, but in regard to league games I think it needs reviewing.

As for last night, I don't quite know what to think. I wasn't expecting a win, given our poor record there down the years, but to come so close to what would undoubtedly have been a bonus win in our push for a top-six spot feels agonizing. Think we have to take the positives forward from a gutsy performance and push on over the next four weeks.

In the end we narrowly fell short in a weekly league game, it's not as if we had to suffer losing a major cup final in golden-point time, is it!!!

Bad luck that Super Alf, we parked in Asda car park, think the lad booked it pre online, so I suppose it’s a lottery regarding numptys who get kicks from these antics.

Regarding the game, in golden point, Liam Marshal seemed to knock on in a critical point of the game and was just overlooked, did these old eyes see that wrong.

Terrible conditions for quality football, and even our valiant defence and desire wasn’t enough, for me we were guilty of poor game management and wrong kicking options, we missed a Sneyd last night.

Some have said two poor teams, but for me it was two teams in different stages of their development, Hull are just improving incredibly well regarding the change in attitude and culture, and for me that’s a mountain climbed, everything else is a bonus, possibly same culture next year, with fresh bodies to push on further.

And I know this will get me some pelters, I don’t understand why the referee, who was born in Wigan, on a night of nearly a full fixture list, could not have been scheduled to a less parochial fixture, not saying he favoured the pies, and as I said our kicking and game management was dumb at times, but it takes any collusion or speculation out the equation. Apologies if I’m wrong on the refs birthplace.

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Your not and he is useless. In fact all the officials were poor just like both teams.

And Liams knock on Zig, did you see this?

Are you joking or can you really not see the problems with two results for one game? Or odd incentive for a non-aggression pact it creates late in tied games?

As paying spectators the Golden point brings great drama and gives some value for money. Of course it hurts when you're on the wrong end of the result. But when you get it it's a fantastic feeling.

I think the Sneyd winner at Wigan was the first Super League Golden point. The reaction from our fans that day was like we won a final. I was covered in lager as everyone with a beer in their hand at the time threw their drink in the air in pure delight.

A draw is a dull feeling.

I know which I prefer.

I'm not quite sure what problems it would create tbh.
Perhaps I'm being dense and missing something obvious but I don't see it.

Gutting end to the game, but shows where we’re at now - taking it to Wigan at their place is applaudable. It’s the culture and attitude we’ve lacked for years and it seems it’s finally taken/taking a turn for the positive.

On another note, can’t help but feel disappointed with Carlos. What’s the point of putting in a tackle effort like that, 4 mins from time when we’re winning? Just play the sets out and be safe. We defended well all game and it wasn’t needed. Another senior player who, it can be argued, unnecessarily let the team down again. Griffinesque.

Anyway, the replays show their first try was a mile forward. All our players arguing for it and even Marshall’s reaction gives it away. Cheers, Kendall.

There’s the basic principles that every game should have the same value for fairness and the integrity of the competition, and that teams contesting them should never have an interest in collaborating. And just the natural balance of if there is a winner there has be a loser - this isn’t a primary school sports day.

You might point out that in association football a won league game is typically worth 3 points whereas as drawn one is only worth only 2 (1 point each), but one team’s gain comes at a cost to the other. Here you’d be creating a new point at no cost to either competing team. The cost is instead borne indirectly by the rest of the league.

While all the teams in a league are rivals, so 2 for us and 0 for them is better than 2 and 1, sometimes that rivalry isn’t very direct. For example, late in the season if one team is trying to secure a top 2 spot and another is just trying to make the top 6, banking a point each and manufacturing a third by waiting a couple minutes for for the hooter to end the 80 minutes before starting with the drop goal attempts becomes the smart thing to do. Vaguely like the Disgrace of Gijon (W. Germany vs Austria, 1982); admittedly in miniature.

Seemingly unlikely things happen all the time, and RL has a history of failing to ask ‘what if?’.

What if a club (Wigan) decides to just ignore the salary cap?
What if a big club like Bradford gets into financial difficulty?
What if an already relegated club (Widnes) end up having a pretty substantial financial incentive to see their opponents (Hull KR) not lose and end up in the MPG and possibly get relegated beside them?

The RU bonus point system is stupid, imo, and I don’t want to defend it. However, it is intended to encourage try-scoring and avoid towel chucking. To employ something even worse in RL would be sad, and a new test of patience for me with those who govern it.

Retaining GP because a drawn game at 80 minutes is regarded as undesirable, while rewarding teams who are drawing at 80 minutes (because, actually, we like draws…?) is inelegant soggy cake-ism.

If we keep GP (I don’t think we should for league games, personally) and we really can’t face GP red in tooth and claw, we could go:
4 points for a win
3 points for a GP win
2 points for a draw
1 point for a GP loss
0 points for a loss

Complicated solution, especially for me as I don’t have a problem with drawn league games - they’re rare but often quite thrilling affairs in RL. But fair and logical.

I love obscure and complicated stuff. County Championship cricket is too far even for me though. I would gladly read a short (that’s rich, I know) summary but I’m not looking it up!

I also don't mind draws and would happily ditch GP for league games but if they do insist on having it then I do think the extra point system would improve matters.
I honestly don't see how it's more prone to manipulation than the current scoring system or the more comple one you suggest. Or perhaps I'm just missing your point.
It's all academic anyway as the current GP system appears here to stay soI'll just have to lump it.

At the risk of thread drift.....the CC cricket system is as follows:
There are 5 first innings batting pts available, scored at 250+,300+,350+,400+ and 450+ runs.
There also 3 first innings bowling points on offer, scored at 3+,6+ and 9+ wickets taken.
The rest of the scoring is actually more confusing than the bonus points. It's exceedingly cricket.