I wax lyrical - but there's an awful lot of truth in where any team finishes 9th

So how many points do we think are needed to avoid the MPG scrap?

give over

20 points is about the cutoff usually I think.
I still don't think we are in danger of the crappy 8s. We'll finish 6th or 7th and have a pointless Super 8s I suspect.
Time to focus our efforts on a 3rd straight cup.

We probably need twenty points to make the eights, maybe twenty-two this year if it's going to be a closer league. So another four wins from ten.

We probably need to win at least twelve from seventeen to make the top four.

Another 8 points is challenging given we've just lost to the bottom side. Top 4 is out of the question, hope for another good cup run.

mrs b stop be naughty, we wont finish in the bottom 4

It's a possibility. Especially if Kelly's out.

no we wont mrs b, even with Kelly out, but don't think we will be top 4 either, 5/6 this year and another CC final

That's your opinion. Mine is we've a lot of work to do justify that confidence.

9th place is currently 8 points behind us. That means at least one of the bottom 4 has to win 4/5 games more than us, that’s not even taking into account the teams that currently sit 7th & 8th needing to jump us too. We’re a poorer team this year for sure but the bottom four look extra poor.

I hope you're right. To me with the disruption we've had and a couple of disastrous performances sealing safety and a decent cup run would salvage something. Let's not forget that Leeds and Warrington have both been in there recently.

Theoretically possible yes, the actuality is that we simply won't be anwhere near the 8s, you have completely lost the plot!
We are currently still 5th, if Leeds win we'll be 6th, to be in the bottom 4 Widnes, Hull KR, Catalans and Hudds would all need to win 3 or 4 games more than we do over the same period AND improve their points difference.
Either you're a desperately depressive doom and gloom merchant or have no grasp as to how much the bottom 4 teams have to catch up and overhaul us nor how the points system works, frankly I think it's both.
We will not be outside the top 8, the thread should be locked.

gotta agree