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Quote: ccs "......Did you see last Friday's game? I didn't realise it had been televised live.'"

swapped because of the weather I think...

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Quote: Sebasteeno "I think were still suffering a big hangover from this trip. Half the team still thinks theyre on Manly Beach and havent come back down to eath yet or so it seems'"

And yet Wigan seem to be doing just fine with one loss and second behind Saints having played one game less?
It's not the trip, the problems lie elsewhere and it always will do until people realise that we aren't going to get any better than 2016 (when we had the best team in the league and pretty much an injury free season) unless we make changes.

We need an attack coach and a sports psychologist at the very least, I'd say the latter is much more important than the former.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "And yet Wigan seem to be doing just fine with one loss and second behind Saints having played one game less?
It's not the trip, the problems lie elsewhere and it always will do until people realise that we aren't going to get any better than 2016 (when we had the best team in the league and pretty much an injury free season) unless we make changes.

We need an attack coach and a sports psychologist at the very least, I'd say the latter is much more important than the former.'"

Leeds and Wigan are both big clubs and have the knowledge and ability to cope with things like the OZ trip/playing in WCCs. We are a medium club trying to be one of the big boys and as such are not capable of coping with the demands of WCCs etc.........at the moment

I honestly believe some of the team are still coming down from the trip and have forgotten what got them there - hard work

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Quote: Sebasteeno "Leeds and Wigan are both big clubs and have the knowledge and ability to cope with things like the OZ trip/playing in WCCs. We are a medium club trying to be one of the big boys and as such are not capable of coping with the demands of WCCs etc.........at the moment

I honestly believe some of the team are still coming down from the trip and have forgotten what got them there - hard work'"


yup, medium club, bacj to back CC and semi finals, we're rubbish. Maybe you should stop "supporting" FC and stick to KR...

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Quote: Sebasteeno "Leeds and Wigan are both big clubs and have the knowledge and ability to cope with things like the OZ trip/playing in WCCs. We are a medium club trying to be one of the big boys and as such are not capable of coping with the demands of WCCs etc.........at the moment

I honestly believe some of the team are still coming down from the trip and have forgotten what got them there - hard work'"


I've seen no evidence to back this up.

We have some key personnel missing, and specifically ahead of the Salford game we had some major squad disruption and for some reason the players never seem to be up for Salford away. Don't forget, the week before we travelled to Leeds on a horrible Thursday night with a very young squad and should've won. We'll see what response the players have this weekend.

Sometimes as fans wed well too much on one result, similar to Rovers this week with their Grand Final ambitions after a win against a crap Huddersfield team.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "
We need an attack coach and a sports psychologist at the very least, I'd say the latter is much more important than the former.'"


And I would say that the latter would be a total waste of time and money and the former may help - but only if it was the right person.

Do we really need dozens of coaches? By all means bring in specialists for certain aspects like kicking but do we want to end up like the England RU set up which has over 30 backroom staff - fat lot of good that did.

Sports psychologists in a team environment pure bull merchants. They may have some use in an individual precision sport like golf, snooker, darts for example where a steady nerve and the ability to blank out distractions certainly helps but its completely different in a fast moving team sport. Name me one successful sports psychologist who has lifted a team up and over the barriers preventing them from being champions. Instead you have mugs like Dr Steve Peters who flits from one team failure to the next while telling everyone how good he is.

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Quote: Erik the not red "And I would say that the latter would be a total waste of time and money and the former may help - but only if it was the right person.

Do we really need dozens of coaches? By all means bring in specialists for certain aspects like kicking but do we want to end up like the England RU set up which has over 30 backroom staff - fat lot of good that did.

Sports psychologists in a team environment pure bull merchants. They may have some use in an individual precision sport like golf, snooker, darts for example where a steady nerve and the ability to blank out distractions certainly helps but its completely different in a fast moving team sport. Name me one successful sports psychologist who has lifted a team up and over the barriers preventing them from being champions. Instead you have mugs like Dr Steve Peters who flits from one team failure to the next while telling everyone how good he is.'"

don't you dare talk sense, we need a hundred coaches and bumpy should own the club, we'd be invincible

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Quote: Erik the not red "And I would say that the latter would be a total waste of time and money and the former may help - but only if it was the right person.

Do we really need dozens of coaches? By all means bring in specialists for certain aspects like kicking but do we want to end up like the England RU set up which has over 30 backroom staff - fat lot of good that did.

Sports psychologists in a team environment pure bull merchants. They may have some use in an individual precision sport like golf, snooker, darts for example where a steady nerve and the ability to blank out distractions certainly helps but its completely different in a fast moving team sport. Name me one successful sports psychologist who has lifted a team up and over the barriers preventing them from being champions. Instead you have mugs like Dr Steve Peters who flits from one team failure to the next while telling everyone how good he is.'"

golden ... icon_lol.gif
you are literally clueless.

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "don't you dare talk sense, we need a hundred coaches and bumpy should own the club, we'd be invincible'"

I wouldn't have a second rater as coach who is taking us nowhere fast ...









































(PS, not literally BTW c020.gif eusa_liar.gif eusa_naughty.gif icon_biggrin.gifAISY: )

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "golden ...
And yet you can't provide any evidence of a successful sports psychologist in a team sport.

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Ive long thought we need a skills coach, we have been poor for years on basics such as passing. I dont think an attacking coach with some new ideas would be a bad thing either and there is surely more budget now with two cups wins and very strong retail sales.

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lol

we should get her, in partnership with Rangi Chase as skills coach and Paul King as social co-ordinator, what could possibly go wrong. Add bumpy in as owner, seb as rugby manager, we'd be flying!

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Quote: Erik the not red "And yet you can't provide any evidence of a successful sports psychologist in a team sport.'"

There are if you'd bother to look but within a team environment it's about dealing with the individuals themselves not really the team as a whole, if you had any clue you'd know but you haven't. c020.gif

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "There are if you'd bother to look but within a team environment it's about dealing with the individuals themselves not really the team as a whole, if you had any clue you'd know but you haven't.
Really and you have such a clue that you can't name one. Surely if they were that good and vital we'd have heard about them.

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