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| Quote: easthull fc fan "I've watched him play since been a kid, put him on the end of a move he will finish a try, but he will get peppered with kicks & it would knock his confidence. I just don't see him as ready to play every week in SL, Logan is not big enough, turgut was meant to be the next big star to come through, so you see him as ready?'"
Different matter playing in the pack. Jansin is an outstanding athlete and the only player that looks physically on a par with the Wigan lot. I'd look to get him a loan deal with a SL club for next year.
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| Quote: *1865* "Different matter playing in the pack. Jansin is an outstanding athlete and the only player that looks physically on a par with the Wigan lot. I'd look to get him a loan deal with a SL club for next year.'"
I agree it's tougher in the middle, but wing is not just about putting the fast kid out there, defensive reads are massive as is the 5th & last plays in fielding a kick, something teams like Wigan/Leeds who are cut throat & would go for the jugular. I hope your right that they get to or are ready to play regular. & I will stand corrected. Plus Callum's from my club so it would be nice to see a blue & white in our clubs colours regular.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "I agree it's tougher in the middle, but wing is not just about putting the fast kid out there, defensive reads are massive as is the 5th & last plays in fielding a kick, something teams like Wigan/Leeds who are cut throat & would go for the jugular. I hope your right that they get to or are ready to play regular. & I will stand corrected. Plus Callum's from my club so it would be nice to see a blue & white in our clubs colours regular.'"
There isn't an 18 year old kid in the country that's the finished article, it's about being ready to take the next step. In an ideal world there'd be an in between level, but there isn't and we have to play the cards we're dealt. Logan, Lancaster & Turgut will not progress being kept in the 19's next year (Turgut's too old anyway). Got no confidence in our dual reg with Doncaster and I doubt a Leigh/Fax/Fev/Bradford would want to take our loan players.
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| Hard signing to comment on at the minute . Only thing that worries me is that he seems to be a utility signing . I have heard he's a replacement for rankin , I'd have no problems as long as we sign a winger and a centre as well which is what we badly need first . Maybe he's earmarked as stand off for 2017 when pryce quits .
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| Quote: *1865* "There isn't an 18 year old kid in the country that's the finished article, it's about being ready to take the next step. In an ideal world there'd be an in between level, but there isn't and we have to play the cards we're dealt. Logan, Lancaster & Turgut will not progress being kept in the 19's next year (Turgut's too old anyway). Got no confidence in our dual reg with Doncaster and I doubt a Leigh/Fax/Fev/Bradford would want to take our loan players.'"
Sling em in the deep end would Maybe do them good or bad, but if it was to go bad the club could end up in the relegation mire, & that doesn't bare to think about, we definitely need the a team games back or up the age of u19s to 23s like you say.
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| Quote: *1865* "There isn't an 18 year old kid in the country that's the finished article, it's about being ready to take the next step. In an ideal world there'd be an in between level, but there isn't and we have to play the cards we're dealt. Logan, Lancaster & Turgut will not progress being kept in the 19's next year (Turgut's too old anyway). Got no confidence in our dual reg with Doncaster and I doubt a Leigh/Fax/Fev/Bradford would want to take our loan players.'"
don't think we have a dual reg with Doncaster at the moment.
We havnt had a player there for three or four weeks
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| Quote: bonaire "don't think we have a dual reg with Doncaster at the moment.
We havnt had a player there for three or four weeks'"
Is BTW injured? I know it was our decision not to send Jansin as we want him for our 19's play off series.
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| BTW played for Oxford or Cambridge last week I think.
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| Knights fans on the NRL subreddit not happy about letting him go
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| I'm fed up of hearing the "blocking young players" argument when someone who isn't a bona fide superstar is signed. The truth is that if they can't dislodge a supposedly mediocre player then perhaps they aren't going to be that great themselves. As has been pointed out injuries will almost certainly happen and opportunities arise for the replacements then. The younger player has a selection advantage in that first he's likely to be cheaper and secondly he's got potentially got more playing time in him so as long as he's approximately as good as his older, average, rival then he'll be the one getting the contract renewal.
Genuine young talent doesn't get stopped - it didn't stop Schofield and Crooks getting into a very strong Hull side, it didn't stop Briscoe and (unfortunately) it hasn't kept Burgess out the Wigan team.
Anyway welcome Carlos - I'm prepared to see how he goes first in a Hull shirt.
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| Quote: Erik the not red "I'm fed up of hearing the "blocking young players" argument when someone who isn't a bona fide superstar is signed. The truth is that if they can't dislodge a supposedly mediocre player then perhaps they aren't going to be that great themselves. As has been pointed out injuries will almost certainly happen and opportunities arise for the replacements then. The younger player has a selection advantage in that first he's likely to be cheaper and secondly he's got potentially got more playing time in him so as long as he's approximately as good as his older, average, rival then he'll be the one getting the contract renewal.
Genuine young talent doesn't get stopped - it didn't stop Schofield and Crooks getting into a very strong Hull side, it didn't stop Briscoe and (unfortunately) it hasn't kept Burgess out the Wigan team.
Anyway welcome Carlos - I'm prepared to see how he goes first in a Hull shirt.'"
But, but, but, he's stopping the kids.
You're right, it's a pathetic position several fellow posters ridiculously trot out on a regular basis.
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| Quote: Erik the not red "I'm fed up of hearing the "blocking young players" argument when someone who isn't a bona fide superstar is signed. The truth is that if they can't dislodge a supposedly mediocre player then perhaps they aren't going to be that great themselves. As has been pointed out injuries will almost certainly happen and opportunities arise for the replacements then. The younger player has a selection advantage in that first he's likely to be cheaper and secondly he's got potentially got more playing time in him so as long as he's approximately as good as his older, average, rival then he'll be the one getting the contract renewal.
Genuine young talent doesn't get stopped - it didn't stop Schofield and Crooks getting into a very strong Hull side, it didn't stop Briscoe and (unfortunately) it hasn't kept Burgess out the Wigan team.
Anyway welcome Carlos - I'm prepared to see how he goes first in a Hull shirt.'"
And i'm sick of us signing mediocre players and giving them a chance before our young lads.
Are you not glad we gave Lineham a chance instead of signing Youngquest? Playing Shaul instead of re-signing McDonnell?
Overseas signings should ONLY be made if they're genuinely able to make a difference, not utility players that have only played 13 top flight games in 4 years.
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| Quote: Raggytash "You mean Shannon Walker, the ex fastest man in the NRL who at the start of this season turned down 3 RL offers, and was blocked by the RU to play for the Gold Coast in he Auckland 9's? I'm sure loads of our backs are good enough to play for Australia's 7's team! lol
And unlike yourself, I wasn't "ing" over a player I had very little knowledge of. I didn't make up ridiculous lies about attending 3rd grade Sydney RU matches to try and back up my tenuous claims. Claims that were so stupid you mysteriously disappeared throughout Talanoa's entire spell of good form!
Roopy think's Carlos is too good for us to hold on to for 3 seasons, and I doubt there's anyone on the site that would take your view over the guy that watches him every week!
And regarding blocking younger players, if you think we have a centre anywhere near ready enough - you're either wilfully delusional, or a halfwit!'"
3 offers? He was begging for a NRL contract before he went missing.
Crossing a road to watch a game and having a child as the same time Talamoa fell over the line a few times are a massive stretch of anyone's imagination it's true. I'm glad we kept him and cashed in on Lineham.
Roopy has the same opinion of SL that you do of the KC. But it is fascinating to find out which school players went to and who their u13's coaches were. I'm particularly looking forward to see how "world class" coach Stone can his young half backs careers up. If he can't get in a truely awful Knights side who played players in there wrong position rather than play him why is he good enough for a overseas spot with us?
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| Good luck mate you'll need it.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Good luck mate you'll need it.'"
Not really, not one poster who doesn't rate the signing will boo him for no reason and everyone will want him to succeed.
If no one discussed new signings the forum would be like Widnes' mid week.
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