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| Quote Skippy1975="Skippy1975"agree 100%, was never a fan of Lee's appointment but recent results mean he deserves credit, Webster did nothing for Wakefield, what can Webster offer that Horne can't??'"
Isn't some of Horne's time taken up with the academy?
As for an attacking coach, I don't imagine they'll come in and be expected to teach Leon & Sneyd how to do x,y & z better. Saying that, a player is always capable of improvement.
I see it more that they'd be the ones studying opposition weaknesses, work with the halfbacks on set plays & how to exploit those weaknesses, working one on one with non halfback players on how to improve their own weaknesses, general game management, last tackle options, stuff like that. Basically taking some of the burden off the halfbacks & Radford.
Whether Webster is the man to do that, none of us really know. His playing record has little to do with it, and I wouldn't read into his time with Wakey too much either, their squad/resources he had to work with are that poor.
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| Quote Doom&Gloom Merchant="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Isn't some of Horne's time taken up with the academy?'"
unsure, you may well be right. But with Radford, Last and Horne, with senior players in Pryce/Ellis etc. we should have enough going for us (and recently, it seems we have)
I can't see whether Webster is a good or bad choice, one thing I can say is it wont do any harm.
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| Quote Hutchie="Hutchie"I can understand your point in one way, but at all levels players are coached by people who have won less. Can Pryce see everything thats going on from the angle he has on the pitch / training ground ?
I wonder how many Ozzies learn nothing from a second rate winger , yet he still seems to be in demand coaching wise'"
What did all of those man united superstars think being coach by some failed scottish ex pro for 25 years or whatever it was?
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| Surely the attacking coaching is all about structure, organisation and making sure everyone knows where tehy're supposed to be and when. The halfs will be integral to that but they don't coach it
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Surely the attacking coaching is all about structure, organisation and making sure everyone knows where tehy're supposed to be and when. The halfs will be integral to that but they don't coach it'"
Not sure why anybody needs coaching it. If I'm running a play as a half back I want the players where I want them, not some structure somebody else has put in to place. Isn't organising part of the HB's job description?
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| Quote *1865*="*1865*"Not sure why anybody needs coaching it. If I'm running a play as a half back I want the players where I want them, not some structure somebody else has put in to place. Isn't organising part of the HB's job description?'"
For one you are bob on
We have thrown £300k into the halves this season, to buy this "game management" everyone was wetting their kegs about.
Its working, the HB's are doing it. You watch us bring in a one game failure and it go to shiite
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| Quote *1865*="*1865*"Not sure why anybody needs coaching it. If I'm running a play as a half back I want the players where I want them, not some structure somebody else has put in to place. Isn't organising part of the HB's job description?'"
You're probably right there. That's why you'll find no one in sport uses coaches of any sort!!!!
The very best of the best in all sports are constantly coached and even change coaches whilst at the top, yet you think players that have had a couple of good games are above that.
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| Quote barham red="barham red"You're probably right there. That's why you'll find no one in sport uses coaches of any sort!!!!
The very best of the best in all sports are constantly coached and even change coaches whilst at the top, yet you think players that have had a couple of good games are above that.'"
Well, you win the award for 'best at missing the point'.
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| Quote dayvoz="dayvoz"Possibly, but you said it in one sentence.
Too many waffling management cliche's for me.'"
Management waffle, cliches?
You mean explaining why doing X can improve things, it's the job of the manager to make things work as best as they can with the tools/people they have.
You use everything possible to make it so, if you don't look at options and avenues even outside of your field you're less likely to succeed, if you can't trust your workers and gain their respect again you're less likely to succeed.
On the basis of your limited response especially the first one you appear not to understand much of anything with regard to leadership and being successful, that's fine but at least have the courtesy to give at least a little explanation as to what you don't 'get' or why you disagree with what I said.
I can point you in the right direction to some resources that might help if you'd like?
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| Quote *1865*="*1865*"Not sure why anybody needs coaching it. If I'm running a play as a half back I want the players where I want them, not some structure somebody else has put in to place. Isn't organising part of the HB's job description?'"
That's why you never got past branny U11's
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| Quote barham red="barham red"You're probably right there. That's why you'll find no one in sport uses coaches of any sort!!!!
The very best of the best in all sports are constantly coached and even change coaches whilst at the top, yet you think players that have had a couple of good games are above that.'"
Yeah, rory mcilroy knows how to hit a golf ball so I doubt he even bothers with a coach any more
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| Yeah, because signing a coach for the sake of it is the answer. Not needed and has a rubbish record.
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