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| Quote: major black "Your entitled to your opinion but its not one I share totally and I think you may struggle to find the stats to back it up too.
I do agree that it's great to have such a dilema and I would be happy either way.'"
Stats have been discussed elsewhere now, and it turns out they aren't so difficult to find after all.
I see McDonnell as narrowly ahead overall, and the stats tend to back that up. Either works for me TBH, and Shaul is probably going to start the season there anyway due to Shannon's injury. He may well do enough during that period to tip the balance in his favour as first choice.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg " Needs a good coach to improve his game'" He better move clubs then
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| Quote: Standee "He better move clubs then'"
Whilst I have doubts about Radford as a coach, can I ask how you know for definant that Radford isn't a good coach?
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| Quote: Dave K. "Whilst I have doubts about Radford as a coach, can I ask how you know for definant that Radford isn't a good coach?'"
Give it 6 months, I hope for all the world he proves me wrong, but I don't think he will.
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| Quote: Standee "Give it 6 months, I hope for all the world he proves me wrong, but I don't think he will.'"
So you are guessing then, thought so.
Maybe give the bloke a chance, before writing him off totally.
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| Quote: Dave K. "So you are guessing then, thought so.
Maybe give the bloke a chance, before writing him off totally.'"
He has a chance, like I said, I'd be happy to be wrong.
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| Quote: Standee "He has a chance, like I said, I'd be happy to be wrong.'"
If you are giving him a chance, don't go saying things like Shaul needs to move to work with a good coach then.
You are contradicting yourself.
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| Quote: Dave K. "If you are giving him a chance, don't go saying things like Shaul needs to move to work with a good coach then.
You are contradicting yourself.'"
I can give him a chance and have an opinion at the same time. Time will tell.
Out of interest, have you met Mr Radford?
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| Quote: Standee "I can give him a chance and have an opinion at the same time. Time will tell.
Out of interest, have you met Mr Radford?'"
Yes, but not sure what that has to do with his coaching ability.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Yes, but not sure what that has to do with his coaching ability.'"
Like I say, we shall see.
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| Quote: Standee "Give it 6 months, I hope for all the world he proves me wrong, but I don't think he will.'"
Shaul was a skirlaugh bull bricklayer, his 1st direct coach at hull was Radford.
He's now one of the biggest prospects in the country now. N still at hull due to Radford too cos gentle was ok with letting him go at 1point.
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| Quote: Kosh "Yup. And with McDonnell likely to miss pre-season and the start of the season proper that gap may well close even further.'"
Agreed. I think he has a few parts of his game that still need a bit of work (one of which being positioning as Jake points out), but the bulk of them are things that could/should improve naturally the more he plays (his positioning is actually much better than when he first came in already IMO, and will hopefully continue that upward trend).
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| Releasing him makes little sense to me. Shaul will provide him with stiff competition but we can't go into the season with just one fullback. There is Horne too but, not sure how many games he will play and where Radford see's his role.
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| When McDonnell was fit, Shaul couldn't get a game (anywhere). Unless at least one of them can play in another position, then keeping both will be an expensive waste - I reckon Shaul will be on a reasonable wage now.
Having said that, if McDonnell's hamstring is as bad as first feared, he might struggle to regain full fitness/speed anyway.
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| Quote: ccs "When McDonnell was fit, Shaul couldn't get a game (anywhere). Unless at least one of them can play in another position, then keeping both will be an expensive waste - I reckon Shaul will be on a reasonable wage now.
Having said that, if McDonnell's hamstring is as bad as first feared, he might struggle to regain full fitness/speed anyway.'"
Well he did, he had York. The Doncaster link up had to be better organised.
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