I agree. Miller seems to try things even if they don't come off for him. That to me still makes him promising and full of potential.

DJ's had some good games for us too but they seem to be few and far between in my eyes. I'm hoping he can improve too but personally think we are more likely to see improvement from Miller.

Is it possible DJ's still suffering a bit from that head injury do you think?

Well not just the speed but the quality of the pass and also what options they have to put doubt into the defenders minds.

Holdsworths "demise" came after his head injury, seems to be forgotten.

I don't think it's so much that as that Miller at least tries different things & looks dangerous at times, whereas Holdsworth seems happy to just meander through games with about 4 plays: inside ball, next man along the line, look for McDonnell, or kick. They're all pretty basic, too.

I'm amazed that some on here are comparing a 21 year old kid with a handful of super league games under his belt to a seasoned pro who is quite prepared to go missing in games.

That's not true. IIRC, he came back at the start of May, and he was very good by mid-May against Wire, Rovers, and Leeds, then again in July in the 2 cup games. It was mainly August he seemed to disappear, although he was half decent at Craven Park.

The difference was a fair bit the pack restricting him, but my issue is just how meekly he responds to that. He's supposed to be the senior playmaker at the club, and I'd just expect a half approaching 30 to take a bit more charge tbh. If he's not going to run with the ball and take the line on, and doesn't seem keen to take charge, what exactly does he see his role as, a specialist kicker?

Milky seems to have the one ingredient that many of the others seem to be lacking.

Its called ENTHUSIASM!!

I do still think they could be better together, but I think the Sinfield comparison is way off. Sinfield has way more to his game and invariably picks the right option after assessing what's possible. Half the time Holdsworth looks to me like he's decided his play before he gets the ball (shuffling the ball along the line), and other times seems to just get desperate as he's closed down (kicking through aimlessly on the 3rd or 4th tackle). I think I've said it before, but sometimes his play epitomises the problems in our attack, alternating between aimless, predictable, and panic-ridden.

As I tried to make clear, I wasn't comparing him to Sinfield in terms of ability. What I meant was that there's less drama to what Sinfield does, whereas Burrow always looks a bit more 'high energy'. I reckon Holdworth picks the wrong option a lot of the time because his options are invariably so limited. With quicker ball and more players in motion, I think he could do well. He's had too many decent games for him to be a poor player, but I think he's one of those players who needs better players around him to produce his best.



All of which could be overcome if he gets better quality ball and has more options when he receives it. In my opinion.

holdsworth is the most creative player we have.i would say hes created more tries than any other player in the team.thisdespite missing a fair few games with injury and with various halfback partners.his combination with horne was really working till both were injured.imo of course.then again some don't think hes good enough.fair enough,but whos realistically available?

Horne - 18 assists, 35 tackle busts, 11 clean breaks
Miller - 9 assists, 25 tackle busts, 4 clean breaks
Holdsworth - 17 assists, 4 tackle busts, 2 clean breaks

this for me highlights the problem with Holdsworth - he is a catch and pass player, he doesnt engage the line enough and give the defence any doubt as to what he is going to do - Horne and miller play at the line either putting people through or going themselves with conviction as it shows with the busts and breaks

I still disagree with the Sinfield comparison, not just on playing ability. Even when it's going against Leeds you can still see Sinfield actively trying to take control, and that's precisely what we're not getting from Holdsworth and my major question about what he offers. When we're having a bad time, the player's who seem to want the ball more are Heremaia, Miller, Horne, Whiting, and Westerman. Personally I just think that Holdsworth should be amongst that group but isn't.

We seemed to do a lot of tackling and I feel that is what has being the downfall of our attack. Slow PTB and a lightweight pack have also contributed to a lack of dummy runners due to the large work ethic in defence IMO.

Hopefully with a bit more punch coming in and a new conditioner it may be something Radders and the coaching staff can achieve.

I feel if we see that improve we will see more of Miller and Holdsworth.

Them stats tell you all you need to know really.

We should be looking at a Miller/Horne partnership next year.