Coaches are nothing to do with the cap

We need to work on telling Shaul where to stand in the defensive line when defending our line. That'll be a closed season job for Radders or whoever.

He is reportedly amongst one of the top earners at the club, he either continues to play full-back and blocks the progress of Shaul or we try and move him on. He can't play any other position, and we could use the money to address other weaknesses.

Well done on spectacularly missing the point!

He's not the finished article I agree, but i've seen enough to suggest he'll get there, and he'll be earning a fraction of what McDonnell earns.

And what about Ellis?

The two I mentioned were individuals not just a carbon copy of the last guy. You know they actually had character and did their own thing which worked for them.
Gazza as an example was a gifted if flawed sportsman. We wouldn't want gifted sportsmen playing pro sport if they don't fit in boxes now would we as that wouldn't do at all.

Nobby Styles was a great defender and a world cup winner no less but his game included getting stuck in which lead to the stand kicking I mentioned on occasion. We wouldn't want great defenders that don't fit in boxes now do we as that wouldn't do at all.

Quote: frepneyboy "He didnt need to mention the cap at all. He's now claiming to know each wage of each coach in Aus! Yet he'll be spewing if anyone posts the salary of a Hull FC employee'" Well as you know what the cap is its easier to work out. I never said I know the salaries Bennett reportedly $1.5m www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6037710529 Hasler reportedly $1m+ www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl- ... j7LXxCIbGA

Quote: frepneyboy "He didnt need to mention the cap at all. He's now claiming to know each wage of each coach in Aus! Yet he'll be spewing if anyone posts the salary of a Hull FC employee'" Well as you know what the cap is its easier to work out. I never said I know the salaries Bennett reportedly $1.5m www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6037710529 Hasler reportedly $1m+ www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl- ... j7LXxCIbGA

I'll explain it to you. Sheldon was trying to put in perspective how much it would cost the club to 'double' Bellamy's or Bennett's salaries. He used our current cap limit to do that. Ok?

FYI Aussie salaries are a lot more open than they are here and most top earners wages in the NRL are in the public domain.

I don't think it was demanded we made either final but after two years we should be competing at the very least. That is something which is not ridiculous to think about. Its not the fact we lost tbat has upset AP and others it is the manor of the loss. We didn't exactly tear trees down at Wembley so have no right to use the fatigued excuse.

It could easily be argued that with a more disciplined structure Gazza and other players with his "character" would have been a far better player.

Well they both can play other positions. What would be more depressing is seeing McDonnell or Shaul get injured we'd have to move Horne or Whiting weakening the halfs or back row.

Indeed. But surely too great a professional not to be one of the beacons gathering everyone under the new coach's mantle? Surely? If not, his credibility as consummate leader at the club is quashed. He signed for Pearson as well as Gentle. What he does next is critical for him as a leading sportsman. I think he'll do the right thing.