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| Quote: Chris71 "You'd really struggle legally with this as you would be restricting his right to employment and to earn a living.'"
As a professional rugby player maybe (and rightly so is my stance), however it would not stop him getting a job in the open job market like the rest of us.
He could get a job in a factory packing shelves, and get a gig for Dockers on a Saturday afternoon.
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| Quote: Bet Lynch "As a professional rugby player maybe (and rightly so is my stance), however it would not stop him getting a job in the open job market like the rest of us'"
It would still be restraint of trade as his [iprofessional[/i skills are as an RL player and the RFL would be preventing him from using these skills to find employment.
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| Quote: Bet Lynch "As a professional rugby player maybe (and rightly so is my stance), however it would not stop him getting a job in the open job market like the rest of us.
He could get a job in a factory packing shelves, and get a gig for Dockers on a Saturday afternoon.'"
But that is a restriction of HIS trade.
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| Quote: Kosh "It would still be restraint of trade as his [iprofessional[/i skills are as an RL player and the RFL would be preventing him from using these skills to find employment.'"
If a nurse is convicted in a court of law of assault the NMC (governing body)would remove them from the register, thus preventing them from employment using their skills in this country, however that nurse could try & get a job in a different industry. It's the same thing all the RFL would be doing is preventing him from plying his trade at a professional level, therefore he would have to work in a different industry, it would definitely clean the sport up.
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| Quote: Sheldon "The NRL have done it with Robert Lui. Obviously I don't know if they are differences in the law.'"
Where would the RFL draw the line if they did step in?
Assualt
Drink Driving
Peeing in the street
1st offence
What is the NRL precedent
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| Quote: Kosh "That HDM article is a strange read. I'm surprised there were no witnesses, for example. And the story given by Crookes seems full of holes to say the least. I'm guessing there may be more that hasn't come out as otherwise I have no idea why anyone would think he's been harshly treated, nor why he's ended up with a relatively light sentence.
Going on the available facts I'd want him sacked, although as others have pointed out that's not always as simple as it seems.'"
Pretty much how I see it. Not sure that the HDM is a good enough source of facts to be definitive and the seeming shortage of witnesses was one that surprised me. However at the end of the day he's been convicted and that's the bottom line.
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| The RFL could just stop him plying his trade in SL but allow him to be picked up by a CC club. This wouldn't restrict his right to ply his trade as a professional RL player
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| Quote: barham red "Where would the RFL draw the line if they did step in?
Peeing in the street
What is the NRL precedent'"
Mason got sent to Rovers
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "The RFL could just stop him plying his trade in SL but allow him to be picked up by a CC club. This wouldn't restrict his right to ply his trade as a professional RL player'"
The championship is run by the RFL so his trade would obviously include that= pro/semi pro, basically getting paid for doing the job.
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| Quote: Bet Lynch "If a nurse is convicted in a court of law of assault the NMC (governing body)would remove them from the register, thus preventing them from employment using their skills in this country, however that nurse could try & get a job in a different industry. It's the same thing all the RFL would be doing is preventing him from plying his trade at a professional level, therefore he would have to work in a different industry, it would definitely clean the sport up.'"
I'd be genuinely interested in an example of this. As far as I know the only occasion when this is legal is if a profession requires a license to practice and the licence is issued by a [iregulatory[/i body rather than a governing body. Doctors and Pharmacists for instance. And that only works because there is legislation in place to support it.
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| Quote: Chris28 "Yes you can say it Des. And like Burns, Crookes is an idiot quote]
No, Burns might be an idiot sometimes on the pitch but if true then it would appear that Crookes is a cowardly woman beating thug, so please don't make yourself look like an idiot by making the comparison.
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| Quote: barham red "Where would the RFL draw the line if they did step in?
Assualt
Drink Driving
Peeing in the street
1st offence
What is the NRL precedent'"
Drink driving has seen a player stood down and fined 50k.
Anything that brings the game into distripute i'd guess, each case rule separately.
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| crookes brought a bad name to the club so at the most should be suspended maybe and fined,It was a drunken moment but that isnt no excuse to hit anyone when your a proffesional sportsman
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| Quote: Bet Lynch "All sounds a bit shady with Radders sending 25 text messages to the father!!
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makes you wonder, dont it.
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| Quote: Seventies red "
Burns behaved like an idiot while doing his job.
Crookes behaved like an idiot outside his job.
Either way they're both idiots, so the comparison stands
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