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Don't understand how people can say this is a blessing in disguise? Looked a great signing to me, dissapointed he's gone.

Bowen would be a great replacement, but can't see it, same with Eden. Interesting times continue.

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" Worry is like a rocking chair, it gives you something to do but gets you nowhere " Wayne Bennett King Of Coaches:



He looked half decent but in all honesty we have only seen him for a third of a season, he seemed good under the high ball but short of pace.

For me he was not worth a 3 year contract and I feel that this will prove to be a good for us. Losing Manu and possibly Turner, Moa and O'meley for me is no big deal , we have achieved very little with them perhaps it's time for change.

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Quote: tommyfromhull "Don't understand how people can say this is a blessing in disguise? Looked a great signing to me, dissapointed he's gone.

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I was really excited after the first few games, and he [iwas[/i a good signing. Not a blessing in disguise and the timing's crap, but wasn't a Gentle choice in the first place. We'll just have to wait a bit longer for our fullback. In he scheme of things and after what we've been through for so long, it's not the end of the world.

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It was Jason Crookes who scored at the KC in the pre-season, went 80 metres on the interception, our backs made NO gain on him.

Scored some good close range tries, very strong reminds me of Peter Fox.

Not being kept out of the Bulls side but injured.

For me an excellent choice of a young winger with much improvement in him, and won't cost the earth.

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Things have started to slide since it was announced Ellis was coming both on and off the pitch.

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Quote: jarvis12345 "Things have started to slide since it was announced Ellis was coming both on and off the pitch.'"


I'm seeing a link between around a dozen injured/unavailable players to our on the pitch woes rather than Ellis's signing.

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Quote: jarvis12345 "Things have started to slide since it was announced Ellis was coming both on and off the pitch.'"

Kath encouraged him to sign so that it would happen. Honest

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Blessing in disguise for me and I'd bet McRae and Gentle are very pleased to have a 31 year old player who was (most likely) overpaid relative to his ability off the books, at least for next year.

For me, he was not top class. He did some good individual things, but this was negated by many other aspects of his play, i.e. looked lightweight, generally poor kick returns, failed to establish good links with half backs or outside backs, no kicking game, and above all made serious cock ups far too regularly for an experienced player which directly resulted in opposition trys.

IMO, Phelps offered us much better value overall, although for a side that wants to challenge for trophys I agreed with not retaining him.

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Gentle wants his own team . 2012 is transition time indeed.
Looks like some of Agar`s signings don`t impress him.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "Really disappointed if we replace mckinnon with kearney. Add in some of teh other signings we are rumoured to be making and we will still be some way off the top sides unless they have a couple of top signings which have been kept quiet.

kearney
crookes
arundel
johnson

to replace

mckinnon
sharp?
turner
moa/o'meley

Is weaker in every position IMO'"


I've noticed you keep posting similar comments to this, but the fact remains that all of the replacements you are concerned about are still nothing more than idle gossip at the moment.

I personally suspect that Kearney will not happen, if Crookes does it will be in addition to what we have to see if he can replace Briscoe the year after, Arundel has at least as much potential as Turner had when he first came, and if Johnson comes it may be another 'in addition to' rather than direct replacement. The amount of wage we have just had taken off next year's cap can only help this, too.

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Quote: A unknown superstar "NRL fullbacks out of contract next season;

Marmin Barba, Matt Bowen, Nathan Gardner, Dale Copley, Kevin Locke, Peter Mata'utia, Jake Mullaney, James Roberts, David Simmons, Fetuli Talanoa, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck.

Bowen, Gardner and Locke are the obvious choices there. No chance in Locke coming, very much doubt Gardner although would be a good signing and Bowen? Was linked with a move for this season but can't see it again.

The Count has been rumoured to be signing for Leeds and with Catalans after Webb, who knows?'"


Agree with the 3 you pick out, would love us to get Gardner or Locke but like you say, it's very unlikely.

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Quote: handbrake "Blessing in disguise for me and I'd bet McRae and Gentle are very pleased to have a 31 year old player who was (most likely) overpaid relative to his ability off the books, at least for next year.

For me, he was not top class. He did some good individual things, but this was negated by many other aspects of his play, i.e. looked lightweight, generally poor kick returns, failed to establish good links with half backs or outside backs, no kicking game, and above all made serious cock ups far too regularly for an experienced player which directly resulted in opposition trys.

IMO, Phelps offered us much better value overall, although for a side that wants to challenge for trophys I agreed with not retaining him.'"


Totally disagree about him not establishing good links with the half backs, it was really starting to come together before he got injured, and I really don't give a toss how good a fullback's kicking game is, way down the list of priorities.

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Quote: carl_spackler "I've noticed you keep posting similar comments to this, but the fact remains that all of the replacements you are concerned about are still nothing more than idle gossip at the moment.

I personally suspect that Kearney will not happen, if Crookes does it will be in addition to what we have to see if he can replace Briscoe the year after, Arundel has at least as much potential as Turner had when he first came, and if Johnson comes it may be another 'in addition to' rather than direct replacement. The amount of wage we have just had taken off next year's cap can only help this, too.'"

I've noticed that most of the recent rumours are starting to come true and that I'm right that the replacements are weaker than the outgoing players. You keep on living in your cosy dreamworld where agar was a good coach, rule led the club to a grade a SL licence and kath wasn't milking the club dry

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I agree a full back's ability to kick the ball is not high priority. However it is just another example of things he doesn't do particularly well. IMO, the overall package adds up to a player not worth what we had agreed to pay him.

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there is a full bk at the moment at york aka jordan tansey ??????

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