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| Quote: fc baldy "Not just about this season though.He has been found out in defence since he joined us tbh.Writing was on the wall for Turner when we signed Martin and he played over him.Turner is playing well i grant you but when he plays against better centres than Wellham and Shenton,he is found wanting.If we need to progress as a club then better players are needed than Turner and a few others i may add.'"
Why isn't it just about this season? Of corse it is. You look at a player on their current form, not what their past efforts.
Turner had a knock for most of the game yesterday, which eventually led for him to be taken off.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Not just about this season though.He has been found out in defence since he joined us tbh.Writing was on the wall for Turner when we signed Martin and he played over him.Turner is playing well i grant you but when he plays against better centres than Wellham and Shenton,he is found wanting.If we need to progress as a club then better players are needed than Turner and a few others i may add.'"
A lot of players were failing in defense when Agar was in charge, Gentle is big on defense and this has shown in most players especially last seasons fringe players like Turner & Sharpe. To say he will be found out against better centres is premature at this stage, Welham is no mug in offense and his ability to score proves this however Turner did a job on him. At the end of the day you are just grasping at straws as you will not admit you were wrong about Turner. At then end of the day performances are about this season we have a new coach in situ, Turner has proved so far what he can do under a coach with some pedigree, and I if the rumours are true and he goes to Saints I have no doubts he will carry on developing & improving under another good coach Brown.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "A lot of players were failing in defense when Agar was in charge, Gentle is big on defense and this has shown in most players especially last seasons fringe players like Turner & Sharpe. To say he will be found out against better centres is premature at this stage, Welham is no mug in offense and his ability to score proves this however Turner did a job on him. At the end of the day you are just grasping at straws as you will not admit you were wrong about Turner. At then end of the day performances are about this season we have a new coach in situ, Turner has proved so far what he can do under a coach with some pedigree, and I if the rumours are true and he goes to Saints I have no doubts he will carry on developing & improving under another good coach Brown.'"
Why am i wrong????? i just dont rate him.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Why am i wrong????? i just dont rate him.'"
Noting wrong with not rating him....posting on the Saints board that he could not tackle a salad is slating him, big difference!
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "Noting wrong with not rating him....posting on the Saints board that he could not tackle a salad is slating him, big difference!'"
And you dont "slate" players........i slated a few yesterday then as thought a few had bad games.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "A lot of players were failing in defense when Agar was in charge, Gentle is big on defense and this has shown in most players especially last seasons fringe players like Turner & Sharpe. To say he will be found out against better centres is premature at this stage, Welham is no mug in offense and his ability to score proves this however Turner did a job on him. At the end of the day you are just grasping at straws as you will not admit you were wrong about Turner. At then end of the day performances are about this season we have a new coach in situ, Turner has proved so far what he can do under a coach with some pedigree, and I if the rumours are true and he goes to Saints I have no doubts he will carry on developing & improving under another good coach Brown.'"
When Martin and Yeaman are both fully fit then Turner will be left out...maybe harsh but thats the way the season started...a journeyman 33yr old aussie in ahead of him.
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| Quote: fc baldy "And you dont "slate" players........i slated a few yesterday then as thought a few had bad games.'"
I often criticize a player who I consider is not performing.
You claimed he could not tackle a salad, he has only missed 6 tackles all season.
You slated him for missing a tackle on Brough, Brough is top 3 in tackle busts and top 25 for clean breaks..
You talk absolute pap!
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Quote: fc baldy "When Martin and Yeaman are both fully fit then Turner will be left out...maybe harsh but thats the way the season started...a journeyman 33yr old aussie in ahead of him.'"
Of course he will because Marin is loads better isn't he
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012
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Quote: fc baldy "When Martin and Yeaman are both fully fit then Turner will be left out...maybe harsh but thats the way the season started...a journeyman 33yr old aussie in ahead of him.'"
Of course he will because Marin is loads better isn't he
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "Of course he will because Marin is loads better isn't he
That's not fair. You're using facts to back up your case.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "I often criticize a player who I consider is not performing.
You claimed he could not tackle a salad, he has only missed 6 tackles all season.
You slated him for missing a tackle on Brough, Brough is top 3 in tackle busts and top 25 for clean breaks..
You talk absolute pap!'"
Im upset now...no,seriousely i am.I talk pap for not rating Turner...im not just going on this season though...he has never been able to hold down a centre spot even though we have struggled with injuries...he scored a lot last season towards the end against Crusaders and the like but when up against the likes of Atkins ( who is worse than Turner defensively btw) he is found wanting.He may be bulked up to much and looking at the pack now but do you see him and Yeaman as our 2 starting centres to take us to the next level?????
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "Of course he will because Marin is loads better isn't he
Errr i didnt say that Martin was miles better did i...was just saying,why is a 33yr old journeyman aussie starting over Turner when all fit? intresting stats though.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Im upset now...no,seriousely i am.I talk pap for not rating Turner...im not just going on this season though...he has never been able to hold down a centre spot even though we have struggled with injuries...he scored a lot last season towards the end against Crusaders and the like but when up against the likes of Atkins ( who is worse than Turner defensively btw) he is found wanting.He may be bulked up to much and looking at the pack now but do you see him and Yeaman as our 2 starting centres to take us to the next level?????'"
Personally I would be more than happy with Yeamo & Turner and I believe they could take us to the next level, however it appears Turner is not in the plans so all I can hope is that we get a decent Aussie across.
One thing is for sure players like Martin will definitely not take us to the next level, doing a decent job for us but I doubt we will see full length tries from him like Turner provides given the chance.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "Personally I would be more than happy with Yeamo & Turner and I believe they could take us to the next level, however it appears Turner is not in the plans so all I can hope is that we get a decent Aussie across.
One thing is for sure players like Martin will definitely not take us to the next level, doing a decent job for us but I doubt we will see full length tries from him like Turner provides given the chance.'"
So when all fit,why is Martin over him then.The coaching staff must see something to play Martin and be after Arundle to replace both Martin AND Turner.
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| Quote: fc baldy "So when all fit,why is Martin over him then.The coaching staff must see something to play Martin and be after Arundle to replace both Martin AND Turner.'"
If they are all fit I doubt Turner will lose his spot based on his recent performances....If the deal is done & dusted at Saints maybe the club knew they could not retain Turner so looked for a replacement.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "If they are all fit I doubt Turner will lose his spot based on his recent performances....If the deal is done & dusted at Saints maybe the club knew they could not retain Turner so looked for a replacement.'"
Be intresting to see what happens there then.
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