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| Quote: Sheldon "Pearce, Green, Cunningham, Brown?'"
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| Quote: Sheldon "Pearce, Green, Cunningham, Brown?'"
Do any of those have a Super League game between them? I'm all for bringing the youngsters through, but we need some back up with SL experience.
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| He will already have as deal in place I think and it would not suprise me if its Wire. They will have some space on the cap ( sic) available for 2013 and he could be a good high profile replacement for say Morley.
I would not risk spending too much on our cap for a player his age and position, our priorities are in other area's. He is a high profile player , he does bring with him a wealth of experience, kudos and underlines our intentions to becoming a force in the sport again.
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| hes already said he wants to finish his career at cas but money talks. I dnt think we need him personally alot more options out there and alot of other positions need priority. imo moa will definatly go at end of season but omeley i think will have 1 more year atleast and hes been the best forward so far this year. we need a top class right centre and then we will have a right hand side aswell which will be more confusing for defences no more predictable left hand sided play its not working like last year!!!
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| Quote: lewis.acton "hes already said he wants to finish his career at cas but money talks. I dnt think we need him personally alot more options out there and alot of other positions need priority. imo moa will definatly go at end of season but omeley i think will have 1 more year atleast and hes been the best forward so far this year. we need a top class right centre and then we will have a right hand side aswell which will be more confusing for defences no more predictable left hand sided play its not working like last year!!!'"
I think it's a bit early yet to say the right hand side is not working. Imo we have tried to ship it right with Seymor loitering and bagging 2 tries on Friday whilst probing around that right hand channel. Time will tell though and I can also understand your concerns.
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| Quote: major black "I think it's a bit early yet to say the right hand side is not working. Imo we have tried to ship it right with Seymor loitering and bagging 2 tries on Friday whilst probing around that right hand channel. Time will tell though and I can also understand your concerns.'" Plus Tickle got a double on the right edge against Warrington.
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| Quote: lewis.acton "no more predictable left hand sided play its not working like last year!!!'" Think thats down to Horne and McKinnon not clicking as our left hand attack always works the best when the fullback is out the back behind Manu giving us a 3 on 2.
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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "Think thats down to Horne and McKinnon not clicking as our left hand attack always works the best when the fullback is out the back behind Manu giving us a 3 on 2.'"
i suppose but if you look at the right hand side when it gets shipped out theres martin on the wing against 2 or 3 of there defenders and sharp is nowere to be seen martin should be drawing in players and putting sharp in the corner but its not been even looked at yet it gets to martin and comes back to the left edge again theres no creativity on the right side id like to see turner have the right centre spot again for me he is better out of him and martin
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| Not sure whether posted elsewhere but Gary Hetherington's interested as are Cas and Richard Agar. No mention of us at all.
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"His agent David Howes said: “The race to sign Gareth Ellis starts now.
“He is a Cas lad, he enjoyed his time at Wakefield and he thoroughly enjoyed his time at Leeds and it was a big decision to leave.
“I will be staggered if we don’t have conversations with all three. They would all have a reason to make an approach and each has got a different calling card.
“Wakefield are under new ownership, they are spending up to the salary cap and there’s the possibility of a new ground, Castleford have got the possibility of a new ground and they are his home town club."
Also on the Leeds board apparently Ellis' dad says Leeds is his preferred option. D'oh!
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Not sure whether posted elsewhere but Gary Hetherington's interested as are Cas and Richard Agar. No mention of us at all.
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"His agent David Howes said
Not sure if it's been mentioned on here, but Bomber mentioned we were interested on BBC text this morning. Plue YEP doesn't go outside West Yorks
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| Quote: Chris28 "Not sure if it's been mentioned on here, but Bomber mentioned we were interested on BBC text this morning. Plue YEP doesn't go outside West Yorks
Yes, I heard McRae on RH. But I guess my point is that his agent has talked about Ellis' links to Cas, Leeds and Wakey. A sad day when Richard Agar is in with a better shout.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Yes, I heard McRae on RH. But I guess my point is that his agent has talked about Ellis' links to Cas, Leeds and Wakey. A sad day when Richard Agar is in with a better shout.
He'd be ordinary in under half a season under agar.
And wakey spending the full cap? Surely not with the squad agar has assembled?
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Yes, I heard McRae on RH. But I guess my point is that his agent has talked about Ellis' links to Cas, Leeds and Wakey. A sad day when Richard Agar is in with a better shout.
Read the YEP when I used to go to my mums. Nothing about anything outside West Yorks (even Bradford rarely gets a look in as they have the T&A), so I wouldnt read too much into it. No mention of the Wire link?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "He'd be ordinary in under half a season under agar.
And wakey spending the full cap? Surely not with the squad agar has assembled?'"
That was my immediate thought. If that squad is costing the full cap they must be using a worse wage structure than we did under the previous regime.
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| Quote: lewis.acton "i suppose but if you look at the right hand side when it gets shipped out theres martin on the wing against 2 or 3 of there defenders and sharp is nowere to be seen martin should be drawing in players and putting sharp in the corner but its not been even looked at yet it gets to martin and comes back to the left edge again theres no creativity on the right side id like to see turner have the right centre spot again for me he is better out of him and martin'"
But we've been there and know what happens, the opposition stroll through on a regular basis. Our attack has started slowly all over the pitch, it's to be expected with new players and new systems, but one of the biggest areas of improvement for me has been the right side defence, along with the all-round improvement in Sharp and his confidence level. To me there is no coincidence that this has happened with the absence of Turner, the Bradford game shined a huge spotlight on it to remove any remaining doubt. I personally think it would be lunacy to go backwards now as some sort of panic measure, we need to stick with it for a few more games at least. There is absolutely no point in going back to what has been proven not to work just because an alternative is not yielding instant perfect results.
Turner is simply not good enough, a prime example of the sort of player we need to replace with better if we seriously want to challenge the top 4.
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