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| Quote: Rock God X "lot worse than Nobby...'"
there are
Macnamara for a start!
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| Quote: Graham Richards "Quote: Graham Richards "If nothing else this thread shows the following,'"
if nothing else,your comments show the following A) some people who claim to be knowledgeable about rugby can make themselves look stupid.'"
the vast majority,myself included who post on this forum probably aren"t that knowledgable about RL - we all have opinions based on our own experiences - that's what the forum is about,giving your opinion however stupid it may seem to you.Even great ex players like Phil Clarke who has forgotten more about the game than most of us will ever know talks like a complete plonker most of the time !
Quote: Graham Richards "B) if Agar ever goes you would have to be an absolute idiot to take the job as you ain't going to please everyone even before you have a team on the park.
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Agar will go and i'm sure there will be the usual suspects sending in their CVs to take the lucrative post.Taking flak from us the hard done by fans is all part of the job and is more than compensated with thier salary,plus perks.
Quote: Graham Richards "I ask this in all seriousness. Do people sit at their computers in Hull with cans of Special Brew on hand rendering them idiotic before they type?
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I'm not in Hull - i'm just a troll who enjoys a good debate with or without alcoholic refreshment trying to make a contribution to an open discusion,hower idiotic you may find it.
Quote: Graham Richards "The idea that Edwards would even consider coaching us is beyond silly. The idea that he is an unproven coach is frankly laughable. He is a leader of men and one who has innovative ideas which have worked within a sport that he hardly knew before starting. I am no Lawrence Dallaigo fan or RU fan for that matter but he holds Edwards in the highest of regards having considered him an outsider from League when he joined Wasps'" .
fair enough,but the love/lure of money plus the challenge might just tempt him - whether he is good enough I have no idea ! great players don't always make great coaches as we have seen many times
Quote: Graham Richards "Equally anyone who thinks Noble is not good enough is not worth discussing. He is simply the best British coach around and he is available apparently. The question might be asked if he actually wants to do it again. '"
great coach obviously but will they go british again ? maybe Mr McRae will return ?
Quote: Graham Richards "So those two are not good enough clearly but we will go for an untried Aussie assistant on the basis that Brown has apparently done a good job at the Giants without actually winning anything let alone got anywhere near a grand final. Oh and McGuire simply tweaked the 3rd best team in the comp (elimination final in 09) that was developed by Noble.
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depends on what you call a good job ? he's done ok but is the criteria for success simply winning trophies or producing a team that will always compete at the highest level ? There are only so many trophies to go around !
Quote: Graham Richards "Still what do I know I'm not from Hull and have lived in the London area for 20 yrs.'" '"
you've managed to answer your own question ! i'm not from the so-called heartlands either so that makes me just as ignorant of the game as youself probably ?
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| Quote: Sheldon "Took a poor crusaders side to the top 8.'"
Didn't Agar, a poor coach, take what a lot on here consider a poor team, to top 6.
Just playing Devil's Advocate.
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| Quote: snerder "Didn't Agar, a poor coach, take what a lot on here consider a poor team, to top 6.
Just playing Devil's Advocate.
Player for player our squad isn't poor.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Player for player our squad isn't poor.'"
I agree. I also agree that Agar should go. I do not agree that Noble should replace him. I have no suggestions to offer, as I don't know who else is available.
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[quote="The Dentist Wilf":ordztzb0]I for one wish him well... One thing is for sure despite what a lot on here said he was not sacked or under any sort of investigation...Good luck Mr Rule![/quote:ordztzb0]: |
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| I do find it interesting that, aside from Standee, the people who are most against Noble coming in are those who back/ have backed Agar the most. I can understand the view that Noble isn't the man to take us to the very top, but the claim that we have a better chance of success under Agar than we would under Noble is beyond all reason.
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| Quote: garry brindley "I do find it interesting that, aside from Standee, the people who are most against Noble coming in are those who back/ have backed Agar the most. I can understand the view that Noble isn't the man to take us to the very top, but the claim that we have a better chance of success under Agar than we would under Noble is beyond all reason.'"
For that very reason he should not replace someone, who is also not capable of taking us to the top.
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[quote="The Dentist Wilf":ordztzb0]I for one wish him well... One thing is for sure despite what a lot on here said he was not sacked or under any sort of investigation...Good luck Mr Rule![/quote:ordztzb0]: |
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| Quote: snerder "For that very reason he should not replace someone, who is also not capable of taking us to the top.'"
It's not a [ireason[/i though is it? It's an understandable point of view that has some evidence to back it up and some evidence to go against it.
IMO given our board's limited vision and ambition, Noble is the best we can hope to get and things would improve greatly under him. Maybe in a few years time we'll all feel he's taken us as far as he can but I'm quite happy to cross that bridge if and when we come to it.
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| It is a very reasonable point of view, however my point of view is, that to go from Agar to Noble, will only end up with us further down that famous creek, only this time we'll not only be without a paddle, we may well have a large hole in the canoe.
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[quote="The Dentist Wilf":ordztzb0]I for one wish him well... One thing is for sure despite what a lot on here said he was not sacked or under any sort of investigation...Good luck Mr Rule![/quote:ordztzb0]: |
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| Quote: snerder "It is a very reasonable point of view, however my point of view is, that to go from Agar to Noble, will only end up with us further down that famous creek, only this time we'll not only be without a paddle, we may well have a large hole in the canoe.'"
That's not what you said before though? To carry on your metaphor, maybe Noble wouldn't get us to the top of the creek, but to suggest that he'd take us further down it than Agar already has defies logic.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| So why not bring Noble in on a deal till the end of the season, tell him were looking for a coach on a 2/3 year deal starting 2012 and that he's expected to apply, been the current coach it's his to lose, then interview other applicants and make a appointment asap for recruitment purposes.
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| Quote: Sheldon "So why not bring Noble in on a deal till the end of the season, tell him were looking for a coach on a 2/3 year deal starting 2012 and that he's expected to apply, been the current coach it's his to lose, then interview other applicants and make a appointment asap for recruitment purposes.'"
only one problem with that, we've a shed load of recruitment to do.
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[quote="The Dentist Wilf":ordztzb0]I for one wish him well... One thing is for sure despite what a lot on here said he was not sacked or under any sort of investigation...Good luck Mr Rule![/quote:ordztzb0]: |
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| Quote: Sheldon "So why not bring Noble in on a deal till the end of the season, tell him were looking for a coach on a 2/3 year deal starting 2012 and that he's expected to apply, been the current coach it's his to lose, then interview other applicants and make a appointment asap for recruitment purposes.'"
I agree that's a good idea from FC's viewpoint, but from Noble's point of view I think he'd see it as disrespectful. He's one of the most successful coaches in the SL era..why would he agree to coming in on what is effectively a trial?
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: Standee "only one problem with that, we've a shed load of recruitment to do.'"
We better appoint someone asap then or we'll be ed for another 2 years.
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