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| GARETH FECKING MOORE!!!!
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Utter garbage. You can't say you're sufficiently knowledgeable to condemn FC's signings and at the same time refuse to propose a list of acceptable candidates when a bit of basic research provides a list of OOC half backs at SL level. If SL halfbacks are as in as plentiful supply as you suggest, let's have your list to cherry pick from.'"
You don't need to have an inside knowledge to condemn FC's signings, you just have to compare FC's performance to that of other clubs. And besides how many people over here had heard of Hanbury or Blake Green before they were signed? You've admitted yourself we don't have the contacts to find those kinds of players, it's not that they don't exist.
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| Brett Seymour would be a good addition at half.
Matt Bowen
Brent Kite
Ben Roberts
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| Quote: garry brindley "You don't need to have an inside knowledge to condemn FC's signings, you just have to compare FC's performance to that of other clubs. And besides how many people over here had heard of Hanbury or Blake Green before they were signed? You've admitted yourself we don't have the contacts to find those kinds of players, it's not that they don't exist.'"
Neither are good enough to be a top four staring scrum half.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Makes it very easy and convenient to mock/slate/belittle the club's efforts and tee up a slagging off of whoever we sign though, doesn't it, if you predict failure but are unable/unwilling to provide some credible candidates.
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You're really missing the point. We don't have credible suggestions on who to sign because it isn't our job to know who is available. If you were responsible for recruitment, if it was part of your role, if you were paid to do it, then you'd make it your business to know and would have access to agents and other influential people in the game. As it is, your an accountant and don't have the time or access to the information to know who is available and who is a realistic target.I've never even heard of half the players who come over from oz and don't follow the NRL at all, so how can I come up with this credible list of yours?
You can post that I should be coming up with this mythical list as many times as you want but it really proves diddly squat. What does prove our recruitment deficiencies is that pretty much every other club in SL has managed to sign half backs in the last 2 or 3 years so they are available if you have the contacts.
Of those you listed I'd take pryce and witt if they could prove their fitness, wanted to come to the club, would sign for the right length of time and were at the right price, but neither of us have access to that information so we can't really make any kind of judgement.
The notion that I can't criticise recruitment without coming up with a list of alternatives is something I'd expect my kids to come up with to try and win a playground argument
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| Quote: Sheldon "Neither are good enough to be a top four staring scrum half.'"
I'd be amazed if you'd seen enough of either of them to be able to make that judgement, but I take your point. Fact remains that they'd be a damn site better use of our resources than Sean Long.
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| kearney would walk into the hull team but his best position isnt half back. i think you boys will sign wallace although there will be competition.
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| Jakes got a very good point about our overseas recruitment.
I believe we start with how many SOO/test apps do you have and finishes with who's left?
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "GARETH FECKING MOORE!!!!'"
Why when we have what seems to be a decent looking prospect in Williams?? Would be a novel idea to bring in a like for like replacement rather than moving 4 players around to cover one.
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| Quote: garry brindley "I'd be amazed if you'd seen enough of either of them to be able to make that judgement, but I take your point. Fact remains that they'd be a damn site better use of our resources than Sean Long.'"
I've seen a bit of both, I've been here since 2008.
Hanbury was at tigers and Green sharks and dogs.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Jakes got a very good point about our overseas recruitment.
I believe we start with how many SOO/test apps do you have and finishes with who's left?'"
Bingo.
And to an extent it's been a foolproof system for the board for quite a while. They go over and get these big name SOO/test players who have a couple of years left in them and if it works (O'Meley, Fitz) then great, and if it doesn't (Berrigan, Sing) then they can throw their hands in the air and claim they couldn't have done any more than get someone in of xyz's caliber etc etc. Either way they've sold a lot of passes and merchandise off the back of it. This is the process, and no real thought seems to go in to if the person they are bringing over is right for the team.
Same applies to Long although of course he's not Aussie.
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| Quote: slideby "kearney would walk into the hull team but his best position isnt half back. i think you boys will sign wallace although there will be competition.'"
Of course they will be, the main one will be broncos won't let him go unless they can get Sandow.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Jakes got a very good point about our overseas recruitment.
I believe we start with how many SOO/test apps do you have and finishes with who's left?'"
Yet when we picked up Colin Best, for example, who beyond the faithful NRL followers had heard of him? Point is we should be trying to use the contacts we have down under to identify someone half decent who ISN'T an NRL/Aus/SOO regular to bring over for a couple of years
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| Quote: Chris28 "Yet when we picked up Colin Best, for example, who beyond the faithful NRL followers had heard of him? Point is we should be trying to use the contacts we have down under to identify someone half decent who ISN'T an NRL/Aus/SOO regular to bring over for a couple of years'"
I agree I was just pointing out what I believe our current strategy is.
There's some excellent players without soo apps, we don't seem to know about them or care.
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| Far be it for me to defend the club, but we are forgetting about Moa..
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