Very much so.

To progress like we should then would be to finish above 6th and win at least one play-off game.

I don't think we have a 'right' to silverware at all. What I do think is that a club of our size, with its fanbase and off the field set up, should be up there competing with the top 3 or 4 teams in the competition and be in with a [irealistic chance[/i of winning something. At the moment, we're nowhere near. And we won't be until we have a new coach.

If a top 8 finish would be 'just nice' for you, that's your prerogative. I feel we should be aiming higher.

Sorry maybe i miss wrote what I meant, as we are presently playing a top 8 would do me!!
we should be aiming for top 3 with the squad we have on paper but games are not played on paper

like i just wrote...
Sorry maybe i miss wrote what I meant, as we are presently playing a top 8 would do me!!
we should be aiming for top 3 with the squad we have on paper but games are not played on paper

So Wigan, Saints, Wire, Leeds, even Hudds and Rovers see finishing anywhere in the top 8 of a 12 team competition as reaching their pinnacle. That really is genuinely funny, good work!

we are already viewed as the Newcastle United of Rugby league and a graveyard to coaches so the old phrase "better the devil you know" springs to mind because right now with fan protests etc making the press i am sure few would want to coach in hull!!!

I did not think you mean that, it does not fit with your usual beliefs. Yeah I guess most fans would say right now they would take the 8 as we languishing bottom of the league (points deductions not included). I think we should be challenging for 4th like we did last season. I also think one win and we could go on a good run.

I do not think most fans will take 8 because we are at the bottom. Most fans are saying Agar Out so we have a chance of competing in this league.

Another good one! Because the sit in that Wire fans had to get rid of Cullen really prevented them from getting a decent replacement in didn't it?

Keep 'em coming, I needed this after yesterday

agreed, there is too much quality in the squad not too Paul!!!
I think we will struggle against Crux because everyone will struggle against them even in a win as they are a fairly well drilled side and now playing to the remit that Nobby laid out for them..
However i do think that we may just turn up at Wigan and give them a game because we are due one , another game under Hornes belt, Long should be back , Phelps should be online!!! could just give them a scare or two that will kick off our season....

Who said anything about the match? Do you want me to explain to you details of my personal life?