Where did he say that? You said the club were not listening, of course they listen. What they are not doing is what you and others want them to do. They are two different things.

People said last year that Agar had to make the top 8 or better still top 6 for Agar to keep his job and he did. So lets see how he goes this year before we crucify him. I think we need a new coach to take us to the next level but Agar earnt his shot for this season by how we did last time.

The 'Season of Promise' was supposed to be about having a much better year than the previous two and the team promising to reward the fans for their support. It was never about promising to win trophies in the sense that you seem to have taken it.

WTF?

Where did I say anything of the sort? Although while we're at it, I wouldn't presume to speak on the behalf of the 'majority' of fans.

You accuse the club of 'not listening'. What you actually mean is 'the club aren't sacking the coach even though I want them to'. These two things are not the same.

So what they actually meant was 'The Season of not being quite as e as the last two'? it's good a good ring to it

Obviously they weren't 'promising to win trophies', but they were saying that the season was 'promising' and encouraging expectation. I don't think an overall 7th place finish was anywhere near justification of such a marketing campaign.

So can you suggest to me exaclty what you want him to do and say?

What do other coaches do that Rich doesn't?

I'm gonna stick you on the 'ignore' thing pal, I enjoy a debate but you're just too 'basic' for me

Well said

I'm bored by some fan's happy-clappy vibe

The thing is, if pass sales fall because people don't like the rugby or because they specifically want Agar replaced then either way it sends a message to the board about the fans' opinion on the coach. We could argue all day about whether that's a good thing or not obviously, but that's what would have happened...

Fair enough, but can you just answer me on my point of what you actually want Agar to do? Not particularly aimed at you but all the coach bashers. I'm just asking for your opinion and to try to keep this a debate not a slanging match!!!

I do it for my job and I'm not bad at it! I'm just saying that all the 'SOP' stuff no doubt played it's part in the record sales last year, but in the longer term it may have had the effective of making some fans lose interest through feeling let down.

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