The length of deal is the issue I heard rather than money. We want him for a year and I think that's what is up for discussion.

If we go into next season with no proper HB cover YET AGAIN, relying on Long and Horne's half season contributions, we deserve all that we get ! It would be sheer madness ! If we have any intentions of competing at the top of SL of course.

Don't forget as Westerman said yesterday he can also play 6.

Your insane

Yes he can but when Long has an extended spell on the sidelines, we are shafted at 7 again.

Come on, have you seen Wigans team.

i wouldnt play westerman at 6,hes a 13.we have needed a proper loose foreward for a long time.if we start moving westerman around,we will end up with another washbrook.we need experienced half back cover.

Would put a few others in front of us as well, Dobbins included.

IMO Wigan and Wire have the best teams on paper, then you have a band of Us, Leeds, Saints, Rovers and Hudds who are better than the others in some areas and worse in other areas but don't really stand out overall. Then you have Bradford, Salford and Celtic then finally the rest.

Pot calling Kettle Black after that post.

Maybe we need to ship someone out to clear the cap room

In which areas are we stronger than Leeds and Saints? The only possibility I can see is on the wings, which means diddly if you're outperformed down the middle. Everywhere else they're at least as good and mostly better IMO.

Surely with Joes arrival and what we have on board already in Horne and Long fit again, plus the younger players coming through a year older and wiser the situation has already ten fold improved hasnt it??