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| The lad is unfortunately a flapper, he looked great in NL1 because that is his level of footie!!
he exposes the line by rushing out for intercepts all the time which he rarely gets and his tackling is woeful to say the least !!!
DO NOT RENEW CONTRACT HE IS NOT WORTH IT!!!
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| Quote: Kosh "I think he is in attack - he certainly has a better scoring and assist record. As an overall 'package' maybe not at the moment.'"
what has he done in attack this year then??? nowt is the answer..
he is touted as the next Offiah by some on here but he is a plant !!!
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "So we then get onto the point around Hall not realising his potential being all Agar's fault.'"
I certainly wouldn't go that far. I don't think that Agar has handled him at all well, but at the same time Hall has to take some responsibility himself. He has to be aware of his shortcomings and should be taking it upon himself to deal with them - although in his defence he did come up with the plan to play for Widnes last season.
Hall and Whiting are virtual polar opposites. Hall is all about natural athletic ability and flair, Whiting is all about heart and brains. Someone with Whiting's personality is always going to deal with adversity better than someone like Hall. Personally I'm glad to have both in the squad.
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| Quote: GODS UNDERTAKER "what has he done in attack this year then??? nowt is the answer.'"
Over the last few seasons he has had the best try-to-game ratio of anyone in the squad.
Quote: GODS UNDERTAKER "he is touted as the next Offiah by some on here but he is a plant !!!'"
Offiah was a winger. Hall is a centre.
HTH.
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| Quote: Kosh "Over the last few seasons he has had the best try-to-game ratio of anyone in the squad.
Offiah was a winger. Hall is a centre.
HTH.'"
OK lets make it simple , were not talking about last season or the season before were talking about this season ok in which he has produced the sum total of fook al.
His so called attacking flair is touted as Offiahesque in the way he drills in hundreds or tries and so on, his speed and agility according to some on here is almost legendary, and he makes Meninga look crap , however once the dawn breaks and you all wake up from your cot the truth is that he is overhyped, possibly the worst tackler in SL and he found his level in NL1 and thats why he shone there because he is the average level in NL1, oh and how many trys has he scored this year ??
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: GODS UNDERTAKER "The lad is unfortunately a flapper, he looked great in NL1 because that is his level of footie!!
he exposes the line by rushing out for intercepts all the time which he rarely gets and his tackling is woeful to say the least !!!
DO NOT RENEW CONTRACT HE IS NOT WORTH IT!!!'"
He went to Widnes...was played in his proper position and was coached well...i dont rate cullen but Agar makes him look like wayne bennett...he came back to us and was very good towards the end of last season...then he goes into pre-season with Agar and his confidence goes again...Hmmmm...de ja vue...like i said earlier...i was at a wedding in the lakes and was talking to a widnes player at the time and was there with Hall...he said if he is coached well..he has talent abound....Hall hasnt kicked on under Agar...go figure.
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| Quote: fc baldy "He went to Widnes...was played in his proper position and was coached well...i dont rate cullen but Agar makes him look like wayne bennett...he came back to us and was very good towards the end of last season...then he goes into pre-season with Agar and his confidence goes again...Hmmmm...de ja vue...like i said earlier...i was at a wedding in the lakes and was talking to a widnes player at the time and was there with Hall...he said if he is coached well..he has talent abound....Hall hasnt kicked on under Agar...go figure.'"
dont need to "go figure" I can see it myself each week , a coach will not make him grow a backbone in defence!!
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| Quote: cod'ead "I've remained sufficiently in touch with reality to never label any preofessional RL player as windy. How many times have you pulled on a pro jersey and played?'"
I've seen him try to avoid the collision often enough to know he's windy. Whether I have played pro RL or not is immaterial. I'm not a pro diver, but I know a belly flop when I see one.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: GODS UNDERTAKER "dont need to "go figure" I can see it myself each week , a coach will not make him grow a backbone in defence!!'"
A coach will coach him though...someething which Agar clearly lacks......i will take the word of a actual player over a no-nowt like you.
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| Quote: fc baldy "A coach will coach him though...someething which Agar clearly lacks......i will take the word of a actual player over a no-nowt like you.'" But who's going to give him the courage in defence? He simply isn't good enough defensively for this league.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "But who's going to give him the courage in defence? He simply isn't good enough defensively for this league.'"
If he didnt have "courage"...he wouldnt be playing the game
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| Halls problem is that he's got a poor coach in Agar in teaching him anything, He would flourish at a club with a coach who knows what he's doing.
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| Confidence player lacking confidence - as is the whole team for that matter which was clearly evident last night.
My view on him is that his defence at SL level is below the required standard. Too much flapping and arm waving and crucially taking the wrong decision regularly. It's OK saying he has suffered from poor sliding defence inside of him but he struggles regularly with one on one situations. Attack wise he has done little this season and overall has underperformed.
If you're selected to play in a SL team you have to take responsibility and step up to the mark. There are a few players who are struggling to do that and Hall is one of them. Is it coaching ? Possibly although Rich Whiting gets better and better. More to do with application and dedication in my view.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Confidence player lacking confidence - as is the whole team for that matter which was clearly evident last night.
My view on him is that his defence at SL level is below the required standard. Too much flapping and arm waving and crucially taking the wrong decision regularly. It's OK saying he has suffered from poor sliding defence outside of him but he struggles regularly with one on one situations. Attack wise he has done little this season and overall has underperformed.
If you're selected to play in a SL team you have to take responsibility and step up to the mark. There are a few players who are struggling to do that and Hall is one of them. Is it coaching ? Possibly although Rich Whiting gets better and better. More to do with application and dedication in my view.'"
The confidence thing worries me . After the two whippings by Leeds , It seems were back to last season already. Some players are just happy standing there waiting for other players do do something. The second phase attack at hull in non exsistant . Movement around the play the ball is the same. Weve still got the one man rugby syndrome either because of what the players are been told in the gameplan or are unwilling get stuck in.
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| Quote: B0NES "The confidence thing worries me . After the two whippings by Leeds , It seems were back to last season already. Some players are just happy standing there waiting for other players do do something. The second phase attack at hull in non exsistant . Movement around the play the ball is the same. Weve still got the one man rugby syndrome either because of what the players are been told in the gameplan or are unwilling get stuck in.'"
A lot of that was due to not having an effective half back combination.
When Long is available you have more attacking options.
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