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| Quote: Staffs FC "Fan bases are a wide range of opinion and emotion. That is the same at most well supported sports clubs. I even once heard of a fan wanting his team to lose. It's amazing what extreme stances people will take.'"
I never heard it I read it on the sit in thread.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Fan bases are a wide range of opinion and emotion. That is the same at most well supported sports clubs. I even once heard of a fan wanting his team to lose. It's amazing what extreme stances people will take.'"
If you are referring to me then yes I am wanting us to lose at the moment and it's not extreme at all. The season was over after the Rover's game and Agar has shown himself up to be completely inept (even you seem to have come around to that idea now?). I'm convinced that the best thing for this club in the long term is for Agar and Sharp to be removed, taking a pragmatic view I'm more than happy to lose a few 'dead rubbers' this season to improve the chances of this happening. I've accepted it is a sad state of affairs that it's got to that point but it's the way it is and I'm sure I'm not the only person who thinks like that.
I accept that fan bases are wide ranging in their opinions and emotions as you say and in many ways I'm glad blind faith fans exist because they will ensure the club always keeps going, but in this instance they are harming the long-term future of the club because the board knows a lot of people will turn up whatever e is being served up.
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "'Deserved' is a bit harsh, but I think he's referring to the large number of fans who are all too eager to accept the mediocre or worse stuff that is served up by our club and simply spout rubbish about 'getting behind the lads', even criticising fans who want to ensure something is done to improve things as 'damaging the club' etc etc.'"
Been saying this for years. It's a Hull disease, settle for $hite and dont complain!
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| Quote: Standee "Not you sir, but the average idiot tha thinks it's fine for the likes of King to be on the drink all week, the likes that think Agar is a decent coach, the likes that would have Mally Walker running the club.'"
You said 'the fans'. What you ought to have said, then, is 'a very small percentage of the fans'. There really aren't that many who feel like you described.
And as for the Mally Walker thing, you obviously have a problem with him, but I don't see how you can say he would do a worse job than those currently in charge until he's actually been in the position of running the club. It's impossible to know.
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Downtheante said: "Firstly: Why shouldn't I compare him (Agar) to Fergie (Sir Alex Ferguson)?":46188.jpg |
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| Quote: Rock God X "You said 'the fans'. What you ought to have said, then, is 'a very small percentage of the fans'. There really aren't that many who feel like you described.
And as for the Mally Walker thing, you obviously have a problem with him, but I don't see how you can say he would do a worse job than those currently in charge until he's actually been in the position of running the club. It's impossible to know.'"
The way it sounded inside the ground when we finally hit the front against Celtic you'd think we had just got through to OT. I know you have to cheer a win and can't blame people for that but it was absurd.
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "The way it sounded inside the ground when we finally hit the front against Celtic you'd think we had just got through to OT. I know you have to cheer a win and can't blame people for that but it was absurd.'"
Maybe it was relief, our stadium has been a strange place for the last 2 seasons really, the strangest thing for me is when Saints came just after we found out we are getting Longy and when he went for goal kicks the stadium fell silent
Rugby is a family event children cheer when the team score or win, as parents should we be telling them not to cheer thus installing the wrong sporting ethics in them.
For the record I have neither booed or cheered.
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "The way it sounded inside the ground when we finally hit the front against Celtic you'd think we had just got through to OT. I know you have to cheer a win and can't blame people for that but it was absurd.'"
Perhaps it was ironic cheering? Or just relief that we'd hit the front? Or maybe they cheered the team on the day, but still don't feel like everything's ok?
Most posters on here don't feel the way Standee described. Most (if not all) other Hull fans I know don't feel that way either.
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12839_1486909898.png [b:16wvcohs]"To play your best football you need players with enthusiasm and drive and energy." - [i:16wvcohs]Peter Sterling[/i:16wvcohs][/b:16wvcohs]
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| Quote: Rock God X "Perhaps it was ironic cheering? Or just relief that we'd hit the front? Or maybe they cheered the team on the day, but still don't feel like everything's ok?
Most posters on here don't feel the way Standee described. Most (if not all) other Hull fans I know don't feel that way either.'"
Of course not. But those with an extreme view, whichever side they might be on, like to try and intimate that they are on the centre ground and everybody else are the extremists. It's part of being extremist
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Maybe it was relief, our stadium has been a strange place for the last 2 seasons really, the strangest thing for me is when Saints came just after we found out we are getting Longy and when he went for goal kicks the stadium fell silent
I replied to your insinuation that I held an extreme view in a pretty reasoned way and you didn't respond. Better to make sweeping statements and put smug faces at the end of them I guess.
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "No of course you shouldn't, I take your point completely. Out of interest, if you are with your kids at the game on friday and there are significant choruses of 'Agar Out' etc, how will you approach this with them? (that's not a loaded question btw, honestly just interested).'"
Well 2 of mine are adults so please themselves, we sit in south and my 14 year old is in east he would probably sing it the loudest
Back to your questions I would not have a problem with my children hearing that chorus, it is life and they will encounter controversial situations, I would explain that people feel the coach is not doing his job correctly and this is how fans in all sports react to voice their displeasure, however I would also encourage them to cheer the team and clap the losing team etc
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Well 2 of mine are adults so please themselves, we sit in south and my 14 year old is in east he would probably sing it the loudest
Cheers thats quite interesting, just because I don't have any kids myself yet so can just follow my own feelings at games, its obviously a different kettle of fish if you've got someone to set an example to (not saying i'm constantly shouting abuse or swearing etc though!).
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[quote="Adam Pearson said not":16wvcohs][b:16wvcohs]I know there are two franchises and two clubs (in Hull) and that will remain forever more[/b:16wvcohs][/quote:16wvcohs]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12839.png |
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "I replied to your insinuation that I held an extreme view in a pretty reasoned way and you didn't respond. Better to make sweeping statements and put smug faces at the end of them I guess.'"
Sorry I missed it - good response and don't be so sensitive. ATEOTD you are happy to wish that your team would lose, for the reasons you stated, whereas I would never wish that because I think that is outside the realms of being a fan. We wouldn't ever be able to agree on that so there isn't much point in debating it. My point about extreme views wasn't specifically aimed at you it was a general comment.
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "Cheers thats quite interesting, just because I don't have any kids myself yet so can just follow my own feelings at games, its obviously a different kettle of fish if you've got someone to set an example to (not saying i'm constantly shouting abuse or swearing etc though!).'"
I am it is just as a parent you learn to do it in your head
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Downtheante said: "Firstly: Why shouldn't I compare him (Agar) to Fergie (Sir Alex Ferguson)?":46188.jpg |
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Sorry I missed it - good response and don't be so sensitive. ATEOTD you are happy to wish that your team would lose, for the reasons you stated, whereas I would never wish that because I think that is outside the realms of being a fan. We wouldn't ever be able to agree on that so there isn't much point in debating it. My point about extreme views wasn't specifically aimed at you it was a general comment.'"
Fair enough, sorry for being oversensitive.
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