and we should judge him on games when he is in charge, there was a definite improvement yesterday.

He took us backwards in a big way, we haven;t played any expansive rugby since he has been in charge, his only saving grace is with the injuries we had hiding the fact he will only ever be an assistant.
As for losing our playmaker any half decent coach would have a decent enough backup playmaker, a thing he still didn;t manage to do this season after we got dykes in. He could maybe use the excuse he thought Horne would cover the position well enough if needed, but we found that not to be the case.
This year we lack ideas in the redzone as was highlighted on Sunday when we actually had a lot of possesion in the redzone and still failed to capitalise because of the lack of a playmaker. We cannot rely on Dykes playing every game and if they looked into his previous injuries they would have realised this and signed a reasonable backup player. To me that is a coaches job, wether he signs the players or not he needs to be able to say we need a winger a centre 2 playmakers etc to the board. Hopefully Agar can see where we are losing games and put it right.

Exactly, if he had some good ideas they would have been used.

See points 1 and 3.

Point 1 is the over welming factor in my mind.

Will Andy Last be promoted to assistant?

But then again I suppose you could look at Brian Kidd and Steve McClaren and say they were both at Man Utd under Ferguson during the success they have had over the last 10-15 years and neither of them ahve really gone on to be successful on their own.

If your going to be a success you have to have the skills and ability needed to start with regardless, whether you were a No.2 during successful or unsuccessful times.

Agar has the skills and ability from what I hear and now both he and the club feel the time is right for him to coach and lead the club forward as the head coach.

Good luck Rich, I hope your appointment is the start of a successful new dawn for us.

Seems like the most likley combo.

Yes

Well done hull

Great to see a british coach get his shot

im right though,if certain people need to be on suicide watch cos of riches appointment then they wont want to give him the backing will they,the last words sharp said to agar before he left was good luck rich hope you get the job you deserve it,he never thought of going elsewere other then staying at hull,hes a highly regarded coach in the game hence the job offers he has been offered,also the guy has turned down the chance of a lifetime job workingg with tony smith and the gb accademy,was gunna be going to aussie,that proves to me were his heart lies,good luck to the bloke im sure he will do the bussiness for us and get us back to were we belong.

good luck rich, you'll have my full backing, onwards & upwards!!

murray as DOR anyone??

at least stevo will be happy now!

top post wolfie. and on that note good luck rich......

i am too pleased a british coach back at hull
Murray will end up at wire