radford seems to be a spent force..time for Moa to step up.

He was certainly one I was thinking of.

Agreed (although I would have brought O'Meley back on straight after HT tonight). Agar's rotation has been made a bit easier by the fact that he has more than 17 fit players to select from though and can choose a more standard 2 prop, 1 SR, 1 hooker/utility bench rather than some games last season having Berro, Houghton and Hodgon all in the 17 then trying to decide what to do with them.

Good point well made Mrs B.

How did the real messiah ...fitz do?

6 games in and panic sets in!
we've beaten 2 of last seasons top 4 already, beaten cas who took us to the cleaners last season

tonight we was poor, very poor(apart from horne who was again great tonight for us), wigan were white hot, everything they did seem to come off, bounce of the ball fell kindly numerous times when kicks went through, 13,000 fans calling for penalties every set they had virtually and getting them, we got the backlash from their game at bradford, too many big name players went missing for us tonight

nothing is won in march,(unless you're the bbc manc rugby presenter/commentator), expecting vast improvement against the bulls, win that and the salford match, we will be back on track

Get a life.

No point sacking agar now, however I think last night showed us the difference between having a coach (they all seem to be aussies unfortunately) at the cutting edge of RL thinking and tactics, and one who is still playing the game as it was 5 years ago. I hope the club owners have identified he isn't the man to take us to the next level and are actively looking for a replacement

What a joke, seriously some fans need sacking nevermind the coach.

Agar is not the right man for the job should have never been appointed in the first place, but he cant be blamed for what happened yesterday, we came up against a much better squad of players playing on there home turf reeling from a bad result, playing in front of a big crowd and the referee was a man who can be easily influenced by the crowd when he isnt sure, was always going to happen whoever was in charge, added to that a number of stupid individual errors that others have mentioned that cant be blamed on the coach.

Not sure they are a much better squad of players. maguire just had them performing to a plan which worked to perfection. Looked like they had worked all week on our strengths and weaknesses and nullified the strengths and hammered our weaknesses.

His transformation of nobles wigan side is amazing. Imagine how good they'll be when he gets his own team

Correct. They've made only minor changes in personnel and are the frontrunners by a country mile. Fitness regime is top notch by all accounts and as you say they'd clearly done plenty of detailed gameplanning. Very impressive.