Guess it would depend on the cap for one, plus I believe Wire wanted to sign him immediately and London wanted to keep him for the year. Lets say London make the middle 8 they will want him playing but if they miss out then perhaps they would be more willing to let him come to us early as they wouldn't be playing for anything but then is it too much of an ask for him to step up so quickly.

Interesting one for me this. Was curious as to how we compared to last year in the like for like games, replacing Leigh with Rovers.

Huddersfield (H): 2017, W 14-10; 2018, W 38-12. Total points equal.
Wigan (A): 2017, W 22-20; 2018, L 24-10. Total 2 points down.
Castleford (A): 2017, L 24-22; 2018, L 28-18. Total 2 points down.
Warrington (H): 2017, W 34-10; 2018, W 21-12. Total 2 points down.
Leeds (A): 2017, L 10-7; 2018, L 20-16. Total 2 points down.
Salford (A): 2017, W 34-10; 2018, L 24-8. Total 4 points down.
Catalans (H): 2017, L 16-14; 2018, W 42-16. Total 2 points down.
Hull KR/Leigh (A): 2017, W 24-10; 2018, W 30-22. Total 2 points down.
Wakefield (H): 2017, W 40-18; 2018, W 27-26. Total 2 points down.
St Helens (A): 2017, L 19-12; 2018, L 26-12. Total 2 points down.
Widnes (A): 2017, W 33-22; 2018, W 39-20. Total 2 points down.
Leeds (H): 2017, L 52-24; 2018, W 19-18. Total points equal.
Catalans (A): 2017, L 23-18, 2018, L 25-24. Total points equal.

So when you look at that way, we're on track to match last year's points. We only have 1 of the top 5 left to play away from home, and last year we lost to Leigh at home and got spanked by Saints at magic...

Don't get me wrong. It'll be difficult. We had some great wins at home to Cas, Wigan and Saints last year and also got a point at Warrington. Just think we're getting a little bit ahead of ourselves with the doom and gloom, although the manner of the defeat in France was the most disappointing part for me.

might be a option, don't think its to much of an ask, play him 2 short stints, tell him catch the ball run hard as you can lol,

While I'd agree the season so far isn't a disaster, the idea was we'd kick on and improve not slip back towards mid table.

Instead we're looking more like 5th-7th and missing the top4 entirely. Still time to put things right, but its concerning that we don't correct our mistakes week in week out and have lost our way in areas we were previously strong such as defence.

What is a concern is reading Danny Houghtons thoughts in HDM where he says they have to learn and learn quickly and that they'd talked all week about getting dragged into the game that Catalan wanted to play yet still did it. They still aren't learning from the same poor errors they are making and dumb & needless penalties they are giving away every game, this season we are very poor in these 2 areas.

...if all errors and penalties were "deliberate", then you may have a point.

Saints are top of the error count so far this season.

Errors of judgement is very difficult to manage.

Regarding penalties, it's a bit of a lottery and I think all teams are partly to blame for the lottery it's become.
All this messing about at the ptb, the walking forward into the defender, getting the arm "trapped" by the tackler etc, it's made it impossible for refs to distinguish the genuine from the play acting to an extent. If everyone cut it out then I think you know what you were going to get a bit more.

Keeping hold the ball is a basic skill and no player drops it deliberately but our ball retention this season is poor and not good enough. We are also giving away far too many stupid and needless penalties which are costing us the one Danny Houghton himself gave away on the last a typical example.
We are simply not learning or adapting and if the plan A doesn't seem to be working we are totally void of any other ideas.

Yet Danny Houghton was one of our main penalty culprits

One more (2 in total) than anyone else is hardly a "main penalty culprit".

Maybe not in terms of number but certainly in respect of where and when they were given away.

It was an all round shocking performance as a team and one that they were supposedly ready for and had spoken about all week yet for some reason just didn't take any of that in to account. it's a concern that nothing seems to be improving in terms of the same poor execution, ball retention and needless penalties given away when we know these have been costing us all season.

There is no point the team captain talking about in his words giving away needless stupid penalties when he does the same.
One more than anyone else means he is the main culprit