And how many times have you won at Wembley?

6

Don't get the Brian Smith fixation at all tbh.

For me the players confidence is shot. They're scared to try anything different for fear of failing, and even the basics are now proving difficult because of that. Gentle has maybe failed to sort that out but I'm not sure what he can do when players are flinging passes all over, not backing up when we do manage a break, drop straightforward passes etc etc. Trundle the ball in, pass it to someone who then drops it. Some of the plays look as though they're being made by strangers. Forwards running the ball and almost helping the tacklers stop them. Needs sorting but the players have to take some responsibility too

I'll say it again but we don't have an X factor player like, god forbid, Chase. Every kick off is the SAME. We rarely if ever do anything unexpected. Same old same old.

I don't like criticising the players, but some need to take a long hard look at themselves.

the bit with the confidence could be down to the fans when as soon as they do anything wrong it seems they call for their coaches head or something and start whining as per usual.

None to your one 31 YEARS AGO

We have in fact won it twice since then and appeared in six Challenge cup finals to your one, add onto to that premiership win and a SL grand final appearance to your plate trophy win at Wembley.

Would I swap records with you


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Good game Brucie

I don't disagree

Spot on

It's weird how some supposed fans actually love to hate some players who play for their team.

Probably the money that they pay added with the passion they have for their team makes them frustrated with the player they feel is letting all of that down so much they feel he need to slag them off

Just how many abject performances have we chucked out this season , Same mistakes week in week out , Same moves , Same result . Same excuses in the local rag .

For me, I'm gutted Gentle is struggling. I honestly thought he could be the man to bring success to this club. I just don't understand how he can go from rallying his troops in the way that he did against Wire in the CC, to tonight's performance. They just didn't look interested. I was bored watching. I'm just disappointed with how this year has panned out (wembley aside)... Gutted.

Pretty much how I feel too. I don't understand how we can be so inconsistent, looking very good one week to very poor the next.

Seen enough this season and tonight in particular to suggest that we are going to struggle in 2014. If Adam wants my cash then he's going to have to show more than that.

Lightweight squad, low on experience , even lower on quality, some good prospects, but there is too little quality coming through to make us serious contenders.

Same here we had a very good month in May we beat London easily then went and beat Wakefield in the Challenge Cup, we then went and won at Warrington at there ground and produced a very good display there when no on really expected it and then followed them wins up at Manchester beating KR and also beating Leeds at home. We lost our next four games then we produced an excellent display at Perpignan in the quarter final then played poorly at Bradford the week after but after that we played brilliantly in beating Warrington in the Semi Final of the Challenge Cup then we won our next three games then after that we produced a disappointing display at Wembley, the week after we beat Wigans youngsters but we also played some youngsters then we played poorly yesterday.

To me that is a very inconsistent season we have some great wins there but also some very disappointing games aswell. I just don't know how they can turn up one week and not the next.

Doesn't help when Gentle shrugs and admits he doesn't know why this happens ... or could this be part of his cunning plan?