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| Quote Standee="Standee"I don't think he has had interest from a club that he sees as being "his standard", he's been and gone as a "top" coach as far as I can see now.'"
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"He obviously saw Crusaders as his standard. Has a job become available since he left there?'"
I don't know, there must be opportunities in Australia etc., even as an assistant at one of the big clubs, for the right candidate. I don't know the circumstances behind him leaving Crusaders either. |
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| Quote Standee="Standee"I don't know, there must be opportunities in Australia etc., even as an assistant at one of the big clubs, for the right candidate. I don't know the circumstances behind him leaving Crusaders either.'"
He might not fancy moving to Australia. As soon as a job becomes available over here, you can bet your boots he'll be somewhere near the top of the short list. In many ways I hope it's at Hull. If someone else snaps him up, we could be lumbered with a hell of a lot worse than Nobby... |
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"lot worse than Nobby...'"
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| Quote Graham Richards="Graham Richards"Quote Graham RichardsIf nothing else this thread shows the following,'"
if nothing else,your comments show the following :
Quote Graham RichardsA) some people who claim to be knowledgeable about rugby can make themselves look stupid.'"
the vast majority,myself included who post on this forum probably aren"t that knowledgable about RL - we all have opinions based on our own experiences - that's what the forum is about,giving your opinion however stupid it may seem to you.Even great ex players like Phil Clarke who has forgotten more about the game than most of us will ever know talks like a complete plonker most of the time !
Quote Graham RichardsB) if Agar ever goes you would have to be an absolute idiot to take the job as you ain't going to please everyone even before you have a team on the park.
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Agar will go and i'm sure there will be the usual suspects sending in their CVs to take the lucrative post.Taking flak from us the hard done by fans is all part of the job and is more than compensated with thier salary,plus perks.
Quote Graham RichardsI ask this in all seriousness. Do people sit at their computers in Hull with cans of Special Brew on hand rendering them idiotic before they type?
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I'm not in Hull - i'm just a troll who enjoys a good debate with or without alcoholic refreshment trying to make a contribution to an open discusion,hower idiotic you may find it.
Quote Graham RichardsThe idea that Edwards would even consider coaching us is beyond silly. The idea that he is an unproven coach is frankly laughable. He is a leader of men and one who has innovative ideas which have worked within a sport that he hardly knew before starting. I am no Lawrence Dallaigo fan or RU fan for that matter but he holds Edwards in the highest of regards having considered him an outsider from League when he joined Wasps'" .
fair enough,but the love/lure of money plus the challenge might just tempt him - whether he is good enough I have no idea ! great players don't always make great coaches as we have seen many times
Quote Graham RichardsEqually anyone who thinks Noble is not good enough is not worth discussing. He is simply the best British coach around and he is available apparently. The question might be asked if he actually wants to do it again. '"
great coach obviously but will they go british again ? maybe Mr McRae will return ?
Quote Graham RichardsSo those two are not good enough clearly but we will go for an untried Aussie assistant on the basis that Brown has apparently done a good job at the Giants without actually winning anything let alone got anywhere near a grand final. Oh and McGuire simply tweaked the 3rd best team in the comp (elimination final in 09) that was developed by Noble.
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depends on what you call a good job ? he's done ok but is the criteria for success simply winning trophies or producing a team that will always compete at the highest level ? There are only so many trophies to go around !
Quote Graham RichardsStill what do I know I'm not from Hull and have lived in the London area for 20 yrs.'" '"
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| Quote Sheldon="Sheldon"Took a poor crusaders side to the top 8.'"
Didn't Agar, a poor coach, take what a lot on here consider a poor team, to top 6.
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| Quote snerder="snerder":1pzmvmnzDidn't Agar, a poor coach, take what a lot on here consider a poor team, to top 6.
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| Quote snerder="snerder"Didn't Agar, a poor coach, take what a lot on here consider a poor team, to top 6.
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| Quote Sheldon="Sheldon"Player for player our squad isn't poor.'"
I agree. I also agree that Agar should go. I do not agree that Noble should replace him. I have no suggestions to offer, as I don't know who else is available. |
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I do find it interesting that, aside from Standee, the people who are most against Noble coming in are those who back/ have backed Agar the most. I can understand the view that Noble isn't the man to take us to the very top, but the claim that we have a better chance of success under Agar than we would under Noble is beyond all reason.
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| Quote garry brindley="garry brindley"I do find it interesting that, aside from Standee, the people who are most against Noble coming in are those who back/ have backed Agar the most. I can understand the view that Noble isn't the man to take us to the very top, but the claim that we have a better chance of success under Agar than we would under Noble is beyond all reason.'"
For that very reason he should not replace someone, who is also not capable of taking us to the top. |
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| Quote snerder="snerder"For that very reason he should not replace someone, who is also not capable of taking us to the top.'"
It's not a [ireason[/i though is it? It's an understandable point of view that has some evidence to back it up and some evidence to go against it.
IMO given our board's limited vision and ambition, Noble is the best we can hope to get and things would improve greatly under him. Maybe in a few years time we'll all feel he's taken us as far as he can but I'm quite happy to cross that bridge if and when we come to it. |
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