To be fair it's been a while since he went off on one of his rants where he disagrees with everyone then disappears for a while

Genuine question.

Are areas being kept unreserved as a cost efficiency exercise? eg, not having to print tickets for every seat for every game when many will be unoccupied?.

Is this the case for the Derby game as well?

Any idea how much it would cost to have reserved seating for the full stadium?

We're never going to sell out 24k are we, so that's hardly a relevant argument.

Surely tickets are printed after purchase, not before.

Problem is, apart from two or three on here not many disagree with me regarding the East stand, that's the point.

The point that you seemed to have missed is that we have [iboth[/i reserved and unreserved. The club for some people, can't do wrong for doing right at trying to appease everyone. I could understand your argument if we had just one or another which inconvenienced the majority of fans, but we don't and I believe the majority are quite happy with the way things are.

What's that got to do with anything? My idea, which is something people agree with, even The Brother himself who you mentioned earlier, is for the East stand to become fully unreserved in an attempt to increase the atmosphere at home games. I understand this will inconvenience a few, but something has to be done, the atmosphere at games is terrible at times.

It has to do with alienating a few thousands fans just so you can create an atmosphere. I don't see what reserved/unreserved has to do with atmosphere?? You get groups of people who sit together in reserved and unreserved who generate songs/chants etc. I don't see whether these groups sit on the edges or in the middle has to do with anything??? And surely, once a song or chant gets going the whole stadium (or at very least the stand) joins in?

It wouldn't alienate a few thousand fans at all, as most would still sit there, at most it would inconvenience a few hundred.


Really? Just look at the atmosphere created at Hudds, 2-3,000 fans being allowed to sit exactly where they want helps create an atmosphere, something that having the reserved section in the middle of the East stand doesn't allow to happen.

Essentially what we've got now is 3 or 4 pockets of noise trying to create an atmosphere, it's clearly not working. Mostly, the only time the full stadium gets behind the team is if there's been a bad ref decision gone against us.

We had 23k for Rovers, it would have and could have been over 24k and the SL record, but some people were not happy about having to sit in a reserved seat for one game.

We can get 24k, so never say never....

Dont we have a "singing block" in the east this year? it was in the SP book

Seems to me to be a storm in a teacup in all honesty. No seating arrangements will 'manufacture' an atmosphere. If fans are excited about their team / the game, singing and chanting will create an atmosphere, if they are bored with the entertainment no shuffling of seats will create an atmosphere. Many fans on here have commented how the passion has diluted considerably since hull moved from the boulevard and football fans generally blame all seated stadiums for the lack of atmosphere, thus the attempt by some to have standing areas re-instated.
I reckon most fans (rugby or football) would agree that stadiums which have standing areas create the most noise.

They do, just no one can be bothered to enter into your irrelevant argument. The south stand and both ends of the east stand are unreserved and it makes no difference to the atmosphere where people sit. If the team is playing well the atmosphere will be fine

Behind the sticks? A bit like our unreserved south stand you mean? Maybe you could come up with an idea around that seeing as you're a genius and all that

I think we're beyond 'potential' now.


And on that eminently sensible point I think we'll close this thread and move on.