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| There is a lot of younger lads in the 19s tbf, Ross Osborne has only just turned 17.
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| Quote: Doc Brown "I'm keen to see him in action and may have even been one of the ones calling for his inclusion. Not as a permanent player. I think I maybe suggested trying him out against London for a bit of a run out.'"
Would that be good for him at this stage though? As you say, if he's not absolutely brilliant from the off a lot will be disappointed, and it might actually hamper his development. I know a lot was said about 'it's only London', but all that does it make it worse, because people were writing London off so much as to make it seem like it should be easier for him, which just adds to the pressure/expectation for him to deliver. It might be different if he would be coming into a decent, organised side that would look after him, but coming into this rabble with the fanbase desperately hoping for him to provide the direction and organisation that we need is a huge ask.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Would that be good for him at this stage though? As you say, if he's not absolutely brilliant from the off a lot will be disappointed, and it might actually hamper his development. I know a lot was said about 'it's only London', but all that does it make it worse, because people were writing London off so much as to make it seem like it should be easier for him, which just adds to the pressure/expectation for him to deliver. It might be different if he would be coming into a decent, organised side that would look after him, but coming into this rabble with the fanbase desperately hoping for him to provide the direction and organisation that we need is a huge ask.'"
Fair point.
Looking at the 19 man squad for tomorrow you certainly wouldn't want him coming into that. Only nine of the 19 were regular FC players last year and two of them (Shaul and Lineham) are still fairly new to the game. The rest are either off-season signings or academy products. Add in the constant shuffling of the team week in week out and we don't seem to have any cohesion. Ideally he needs to be tried when we can offer a settled side.
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| Quote: Doc Brown "Excellent post Chris.
Well for me if you want to make the highest quality and best tasting cake you have to use the finest ingredients and know how to use them etc.
You can't make the best by using an inferior ingredient for example using turd in place of chocolate as it will ruin all the quality ingredients you use. Although the cake may look the same it will still taste of turd no matter what you do if you still keep using turd.
Also even if you use the highest quality ingredients its no good if the person you ask to bake doesn't use the right amounts or correct formula as the same thing will happen.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Well for me if you want to make the highest quality and best tasting cake you have to use the finest ingredients and know how to use them etc.
You can't make the best by using an inferior ingredient for example using turd in place of chocolate as it will ruin all the quality ingredients you use. Although the cake may look the same it will still taste of turd no matter what you do if you still keep using turd.
Also even if you use the highest quality ingredients its no good if the person you ask to bake doesn't use the right amounts or correct formula as the same thing will happen.'"
I like the analogy. However, it is making me hungry .
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| Just watched his interview on Hull FC live. Was genuinely excited when he bought the club but not so much now after listening to that load of e! Everything's Gentles fault and the sun shines out of Radfords backside. He talks about some performances last season being an acute embarrasment, sorry Mr Pearson did you not watch widnes at home this year, either of the Wigan games etc! The fans aren't that gullible! I'm afraid if Radfords still head coach next year then I for one will no longer be a season pass holder!
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| Quote: Chris71 "Well for me if you want to make the highest quality and best tasting cake you have to use the finest ingredients and know how to use them etc.
You can't make the best by using an inferior ingredient for example using turd in place of chocolate as it will ruin all the quality ingredients you use. Although the cake may look the same it will still taste of turd no matter what you do if you still keep using turd.
Also even if you use the highest quality ingredients its no good if the person you ask to bake doesn't use the right amounts or correct formula as the same thing will happen.'"
A good idea would be to get Brian Smith as a Consultant, or sending Radford/Last to Melbourne Storm
, or failing that Justin Morgan who is now learning from Bellamy, just like Maguire did.
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| Quote: Howlin' Coyote "Just watched his interview on Hull FC live. Was genuinely excited when he bought the club but not so much now after listening to that load of poop! Everything's Gentles fault and the sun shines out of Radfords backside. He talks about some performances last season being an acute embarrasment, sorry Mr Pearson did you not watch widnes at home this year, either of the Wigan games etc! The fans aren't that gullible! I'm afraid if Radfords still head coach next year then I for one will no longer be a season pass holder!'"
As I said, Pearson is a Jeckyll & Hyde character, bagging Gentle for Wembley (game plan fine, execution/panic on the day cost us) and the Hudds game (Backstabbed by Radford & players) is just atypical of his need to make it seem as if he is right all the time when he's made a major major feck up!
If he thinks the fans are that stupid not to see through his bluster then he's mistaken, I for one am so disenfranchised I can barely even be bothered with the highlight's anymore. Oh I'll still come to the odd game when I can but that's more out of habit than any loyalty (as it will be for most). Because loyalty and integrity have being massively lacking from all corners at the club over the last 12 months, the only one with any respect from me is PG, dignified to the last.
If people can't see the continued stuff ups (treatment of Seymour before his incident, sacking of Gentle, employing a backstabbing liar etc, and I could go on) by Pearson as the main reason as to why we have gone backwards massively then no wonder there are so many like EastHullFCfan whom can see barely anything wrong.
Pearson in his rage/desperation (or whatever other descriptive you want to put on it) to win a trophy has now set us back at least another 2-3 years..the guy is an idiot.
I'd much rather have the likes of the Hudds, Warrington, St.helens owners, not just for their pockets but for their stability and understanding that Rome wasn't built in a day and not binning off a coach whom had us competing (AND WINNING) with top 6 teams from the get-go.
As for coach, for me Radford has burnt his britches, I don't want him anywhere near the club in any guise.
he's shown he has little understanding of man mangement
he cannot grasp basic concepts
he's unable to stop the rot in core skills
he's unable to motivate the players
he's unable to understand the players and their abilities
he's unable to decipher how best to overcome our deficiencies
he's shown to under estimate the opposition
There is not enough time in his life (nor does he possess the ability anyway) to be able to learn enough IF he was ever sent to Oz, the guy doesn't have the intelligence level.
I also don't want lying backstabbers at our club, certainly not leading it!
Frankly i'd have anybody over Radford at this moment in time.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "As I said, Pearson is a Jeckyll & Hyde character, bagging Gentle for Wembley (game plan fine, execution/panic on the day cost us) and the Hudds game (Backstabbed by Radford & players) is just atypical of his need to make it seem as if he is right all the time when he's made a major major feck up!
If he thinks the fans are that stupid not to see through his bluster then he's mistaken, I for one am so disenfranchised I can barely even be bothered with the highlight's anymore. Oh I'll still come to the odd game when I can but that's more out of habit than any loyalty (as it will be for most). Because loyalty and integrity have being massively lacking from all corners at the club over the last 12 months, the only one with any respect from me is PG, dignified to the last.
If people can't see the continued stuff ups (treatment of Seymour before his incident, sacking of Gentle, employing a backstabbing liar etc, and I could go on) by Pearson as the main reason as to why we have gone backwards massively then no wonder there are so many like EastHullFCfan whom can see barely anything wrong.
Pearson in his rage/desperation (or whatever other descriptive you want to put on it) to win a trophy has now set us back at least another 2-3 years..the guy is an idiot.
I'd much rather have the likes of the Hudds, Warrington, St.helens owners, not just for their pockets but for their stability and understanding that Rome wasn't built in a day and not binning off a coach whom had us competing (AND WINNING) with top 6 teams from the get-go.
As for coach, for me Radford has burnt his britches, I don't want him anywhere near the club in any guise.
he's shown he has little understanding of man mangement
he cannot grasp basic concepts
he's unable to stop the rot in core skills
he's unable to motivate the players
he's unable to understand the players and their abilities
he's unable to decipher how best to overcome our deficiencies
he's shown to under estimate the opposition
There is not enough time in his life (nor does he possess the ability anyway) to be able to learn enough IF he was ever sent to Oz, the guy doesn't have the intelligence level.
I also don't want lying backstabbers at our club, certainly not leading it!
Frankly i'd have anybody over Radford at this moment in time.'"
Don't know why you bother posting if your just going to sit on the fence haha
I may not of put everything the way you have, but it's hard to disagree with anything
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "As I said, Pearson is a Jeckyll & Hyde character, bagging Gentle for Wembley (game plan fine, execution/panic on the day cost us) and the Hudds game (Backstabbed by Radford & players) is just atypical of his need to make it seem as if he is right all the time when he's made a major major feck up!
If he thinks the fans are that stupid not to see through his bluster then he's mistaken, I for one am so disenfranchised I can barely even be bothered with the highlight's anymore. Oh I'll still come to the odd game when I can but that's more out of habit than any loyalty (as it will be for most). Because loyalty and integrity have being massively lacking from all corners at the club over the last 12 months, the only one with any respect from me is PG, dignified to the last.
If people can't see the continued stuff ups (treatment of Seymour before his incident, sacking of Gentle, employing a backstabbing liar etc, and I could go on) by Pearson as the main reason as to why we have gone backwards massively then no wonder there are so many like EastHullFCfan whom can see barely anything wrong.
Pearson in his rage/desperation (or whatever other descriptive you want to put on it) to win a trophy has now set us back at least another 2-3 years..the guy is an idiot.
I'd much rather have the likes of the Hudds, Warrington, St.helens owners, not just for their pockets but for their stability and understanding that Rome wasn't built in a day and not binning off a coach whom had us competing (AND WINNING) with top 6 teams from the get-go.
As for coach, for me Radford has burnt his britches, I don't want him anywhere near the club in any guise.
he's shown he has little understanding of man mangement
he cannot grasp basic concepts
he's unable to stop the rot in core skills
he's unable to motivate the players
he's unable to understand the players and their abilities
he's unable to decipher how best to overcome our deficiencies
he's shown to under estimate the opposition
There is not enough time in his life (nor does he possess the ability anyway) to be able to learn enough IF he was ever sent to Oz, the guy doesn't have the intelligence level.
I also don't want lying backstabbers at our club, certainly not leading it!
Frankly i'd have anybody over Radford at this moment in time.'"
Great post!
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "As I said, Pearson is a Jeckyll & Hyde character, bagging Gentle for Wembley (game plan fine, execution/panic on the day cost us) and the Hudds game (Backstabbed by Radford & players) is just atypical of his need to make it seem as if he is right all the time when he's made a major major feck up!
If he thinks the fans are that stupid not to see through his bluster then he's mistaken, I for one am so disenfranchised I can barely even be bothered with the highlight's anymore. Oh I'll still come to the odd game when I can but that's more out of habit than any loyalty (as it will be for most). Because loyalty and integrity have being massively lacking from all corners at the club over the last 12 months, the only one with any respect from me is PG, dignified to the last.
If people can't see the continued stuff ups (treatment of Seymour before his incident, sacking of Gentle, employing a backstabbing liar etc, and I could go on) by Pearson as the main reason as to why we have gone backwards massively then no wonder there are so many like EastHullFCfan whom can see barely anything wrong.
Pearson in his rage/desperation (or whatever other descriptive you want to put on it) to win a trophy has now set us back at least another 2-3 years..the guy is an idiot.
I'd much rather have the likes of the Hudds, Warrington, St.helens owners, not just for their pockets but for their stability and understanding that Rome wasn't built in a day and not binning off a coach whom had us competing (AND WINNING) with top 6 teams from the get-go.
As for coach, for me Radford has burnt his britches, I don't want him anywhere near the club in any guise.
he's shown he has little understanding of man mangement
he cannot grasp basic concepts
he's unable to stop the rot in core skills
he's unable to motivate the players
he's unable to understand the players and their abilities
he's unable to decipher how best to overcome our deficiencies
he's shown to under estimate the opposition
There is not enough time in his life (nor does he possess the ability anyway) to be able to learn enough IF he was ever sent to Oz, the guy doesn't have the intelligence level.
I also don't want lying backstabbers at our club, certainly not leading it!
Frankly i'd have anybody over Radford at this moment in time.'"
I don't see everything rosie but they are the club I support through good & bad, Seymour liked the high life, so get to know things before you shout your mouth off mate. I'm glad glory fans like you will stay away it saves been sat in the stands listening to folk like you shouting at our players as if you could do better. See you around buddy......
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| Quote: easthull fc fan " so get to know things before you shout your mouth off mate. '"
We don't all have EARS on speed dial.
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| Quote: Standee "We don't all have
Evening Martin...how's you today? You had your medicine....you remind me of wuggie from the film something about Mary.
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| Quote: Tinkerman23 "haha see you around buddy
Through my own, I'm not happy with this season but moaning & slating on a keyboard won't change a thing, or do you moaners think it does?
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