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| Quote: number 6 "no offence, but it is easy to get a name wrong when you have your head in your hands whilst your own players are throwing the ball about on their own try line!
didnt realise you was the font of all rugby knowledge and never made a mistake!'"
Sense of humour bypass alert!
Agree about the head in hands bit though
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Sam Tomkins try should have been an eight point try, Jordan Turner comes in with his feet two seconds after Tomkins scores.'"
Deary me.
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| Quote: Chris28 "icon_lol.gif glad someone realises
Must admit, Turner looked like he had put Whitings boots on instead last night though
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "I watched it in real time, I was there! And I said from the second he scored it was DM.
He stretched his arm out to score. That stretch is the second movement. He was already tackled, so had no right to make that stretch. It's a completely separate movement. If it was all one movement he'd have landed on his front with the ball by his chest.'"
In a sliding tackle the tackle is not counted as complete until the slide stops. He stretched out before the slide stops.
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| Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "Ball carrying arm does touch the ground however momentum is not stopped and the tackle is not completed.
The obstruction was given because the dummy runner stopped in the defensive line which he is not permitted to do. If he had carried on going forward another 5 yards it would have been fine. Harsh IMO but them's the rules.
PS. Good hard game from you lot last night. ]Has you not hit the self destruct button for 10 mins in the first half you'd have probably won it. quote]
We are just glad it was only 10, it's normally at least 30mins +.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Sam Tomkins try should have been an eight point try, Jordan Turner comes in with his feet two seconds after Tomkins scores.'"
It's a fine line, as he didn't make contact. Had he managed to make contact and stick his studs in the little scr0te's face than it should be a pen to Hull and player of the month award!!!
It should be an offence to not lead with the knees/feet when approaching Scum, I mean Sam, Tomkins!!
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| Quote: Kosh "In a sliding tackle the tackle is not counted as complete until the slide stops. He stretched out before the slide stops.'"
The fact is that, if it was the other way around it WOULDN'T have been given... All night it seemed a case of;
For Wigan: Look for any reason to give it.
For Hull: Look for any reason NOT to give it.
Pretty certain we've had a few of those chalked off for being a double movement, and IMO that was certainly one last night!!
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| Quote: FC Wembley 08 "Scum, I mean Sam, Tomkins!!'"
Tomkins may be a grade A tool,but I still wouldn`t mind him playing for us.
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| Quote: barton baird "Tomkins may be a grade A tool,but I still wouldn`t mind him playing for us.'"
I think him and his team are terrible for RL... It'll be like football if they get their way. ST is an horrible little b*****d. He's just made to look good by the protection he gets from the officials, if he played for Salford or even us he wouldn't look anywhere near as good... I just don't like him!!!
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| Quote: FC Wembley 08 "The fact is that, if it was the other way around it WOULDN'T have been given... All night it seemed a case of;
For Wigan
I've seen tries like that given plenty of times for different teams. And worse, for that matter. I thought it was a try at full speed and didn't see anything to change my mind on the replays.
Fact is we had plenty of opportunities to win the game and failed. Quibbling over the finer points of the sliding tackle and double movement rules is irrelevant. We lost because we didn't play well enough. Simples.
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| I thought the effort was there last night but the skill wasn't and hasn't been there for a good while.
Washbrook did nothing all game, O'Meley had a poor game compared to his usual standards, stupid basic errors cost us, Thaler didn't have the best of games regarding a few knock-ons which went against us however we had 17 players in our squad last night and in reality you could say 4 or 5 had good games.
Wigan didn't really need to do anything special because we haven't done anything different in our game plan for 3 years, still predicatable and as much as I like Agar as a person, as a coach he isn't good enough for we expect at Hull and more and more fans will stop paying hard earned money whilst he is in charge, we want to be entertained and if we cant be entertaining then we can handle been predictable if we are winning our games, unfortunately predicatable and losing are not a combination I will be wasting my money on.
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| Quote: Kosh "I've seen tries like that given plenty of times for different teams. And worse, for that matter. I thought it was a try at full speed and didn't see anything to change my mind on the replays.
Fact is we had plenty of opportunities to win the game and failed. Quibbling over the finer points of the sliding tackle and double movement rules is irrelevant. We lost because we didn't play well enough. Simples.'"
No arguments from me on that subject.... We didn't get the rub of the green but we never seem to, you've got to play to that not make errors and don't give the officials a reason to penalise you.
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| Sam Tomkins first try looked fine imo, however we were badly done to with the Obst "try" as there were very similar incidents in the build up to some of Wigan's tries. Wigan were there for the taking be we blew it (again) with stupid errors and mistakes at vital times.
O'Meley needs a rest to recover from any injuries as does Horne, Turner looked good again (apart from his brain fart) Houghton and Washbrook were brilliant in defence and Manu is just a beast. But we let our selves down with constent poor decision making and a lack of organisation.
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| Quote: Black and white legend "Tomkins first try IMO was a double movement
Obst disallowed try Wigan player fell off the tackle
Richards second try markers not standing square at play the ball- should have been Hull penalty
General performance od Thaler/Ganson awful'"
No way was it a double mvement, absolute quality try from a truely class player.
Was a penalty for me, think one of the comentators mentioned that an attacking player loitering in the defensive line is a penalty.
Cant remember the Richards try you have mentioned.
As for Thaler, was poor for both teams!!!
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