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Quote: Largeparts "Perhaps one of those days then !!!! We all have them, perhaps not four games on the trot though
Agreed, although as one of Thackray's cheerleaders that's not surprising. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: east hull FC fan "My god, Tony made 1 error today that didn't cost us any points, thackray knocks on, they score from the following set which at the time of the game really deflated us! No thread about thacks though.
Which just goes to prove that people on here will take any slight opportunity to start a witch hunt against someone who has been quality for us over the years but still can't get over a decision made by a coach 2 years ago!'"


Well said.

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Quote: east hull FC fan "My god, Tony made 1 error today that didn't cost us any points, thackray knocks on, they score from the following set which at the time of the game really deflated us! No thread about thacks though.
Which just goes to prove that people on here will take any slight opportunity to start a witch hunt against someone who has been quality for us over the years but still can't get over a decision made by a coach 2 years ago!'"


Nothing to do with Motu being a very ordinary full back then? Which he is (at best).

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Quote: Rock God X "On the contrary. I too think we have an average squad, but I also think that other average squads are doing better than us at this point in the season.



But when you look at the squad we have, we should be doing better. We should be able to do the basics right

Former internationals in general are past it - that's why they are former. Former SL winners played with world class players when they won it. Thacks ? FFS hardly an established international. He played well in the season we won the CC and got his cap then. King ? jesus wept hasn't played at international level for donkey's years. Cusack is our best forward didn't play today. Your post actually proves my point - you forgot Thorman by the way didn't he play international once ?. And critically none of the players you mention have an organising bone in their body which is one of our biggest deficiencies.

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Quote: Smiggs "Nothing to do with Motu being a very ordinary full back then? Which he is (at best).'"


He'll fit in well with the ordinary rest of the squad then. Anyone going to start a thread on each of them?

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Quote: Neil HFC "He'll fit in well with the ordinary rest of the squad then. Anyone going to start a thread on each of them?'"


Feel free.

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I must say I enjoyed Supermans "tackle" on Pat Richards there.

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was going to say the same myself, poor positioning to let him on his outside that easily and then a weak tackle.

I bet you there wont be a thread on the KR board slagging him off for one mistake, they tend to back their players.

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Quote: Staffs FC "Former internationals in general are past it - that's why they are former. Former SL winners played with world class players when they won it. Thacks ? FFS hardly an established international. He played well in the season we won the CC and got his cap then. King ? jesus wept hasn't played at international level for donkey's years. Cusack is our best forward didn't play today. Your post actually proves my point - you forgot Thorman by the way didn't he play international once ?. And critically none of the players you mention have an organising bone in their body which is one of our biggest deficiencies.'"


The point I'm making isn't that we have a team full of international standard players. The fact is that we have players who have been good enough at some stage in their careers to represent their country. Players who are hardly old enough to be deemed 'past it'. Some of those players are playing below the standards they are capable of. That's the fact of the matter.

You can argue that the squad isn't good enough - and I'll agree with you. What you can't argue is that this squad is playing to its full potential. Not in a million years.

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Quote: Rock God X "The point I'm making isn't that we have a team full of international standard players. The fact is that we have players who have been good enough at some stage in their careers to represent their country. Players who are hardly old enough to be deemed 'past it'. Some of those players are playing below the standards they are capable of. That's the fact of the matter.

You can argue that the squad isn't good enough - and I'll agree with you. What you can't argue is that this squad is playing to its full potential. Not in a million years.'"


In a nutshell. The concerning thing is that although it would be nice to think Lauaki, Crocker and Cusack would have added a lot to our pack today, the likelihood is that we still would be underperforming vs what we would be capable of.

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Quote: Rock God X "What you can't argue is that this squad is playing to its full potential. Not in a million years.'"


We'll agree to differ. I'm not saying for one second by the way that Agar hasn't got a fair bit to answer for. ATEOTD we lack quality at half back which means we are crap at organising any kind of attack and it shows every week when we get 20m from the opposition line. Horne has been very poor this season and Thorman should have been dropped weeks ago - something Agar has definitely got wrong previously. Our pack is OK when it plays to the very best of its ability but when that dips we are struggling even more. With 2 decent halves we would get into the top 6 but we need better players across the park to challenge the top 2.

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Consistent though Motu at fullback. Rubbish

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Motu has been consistently awful for a long time a full back. It's funny that when I called out for his defenders today it all went silent. Every defender of Motu as a fullback is an enemy to our club.

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Quote: Raggytash "Motu has been consistently awful for a long time a full back. It's funny that when I called out for his defenders today it all went silent. Every defender of Motu as a fullback is an enemy to our club.'"

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Quote: east hull FC fan "Tony made 1 error today that didn't cost us any points'"

He made two, one of which cost us a try (Wire's first).

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