Or just maybe when the players return or get visas we will have much more go forward which will give our half backs more space and time to be more creative rather than having to rush a kick because they're being closed down due to slow ptb.

Or maybe these players will be told to play the 5 drives and a kick game which our 2 coaches admire so much

we won our first five games with the forwards, the backs weren't involved then because they are simply not good enough.

I didn't say anything about not using this tactic, just that with luauki and crocker we will have better go forward. Which should then allow our halves more space. Crocker is brilliant at protecting his kickers.

While acknowledging the fact we have players out injured using that to defend the STYLE of play we are using is tosh. Bottom line is we play a dire style of rugby, that will be the same when we have a full squad out.

Yes some games it may work for us and we get a win, but you see the top teams playing with pace, variation, expansive rugby regardless of what players they have in the team / what players are missing!

Agar is way out of his depth, Hull made the worng choice in appointing him!

Your opinion, although i tend to agree with the people that have played professional rugby that agar is a good young coach. Also i have never used injuries to defend our style of play just that i believe our style of play will be more effective once crocker and luauki arrive and we get our first choice backs on the pitch.

i think you are been very optimistic,crocker is a great player and a leader going forward,but in our first five games the forwards laid the platform blasting teams apart,but the backs were no were to be seen.

Are you the GAFFER? Because you seem very vociferous in his defence

While i'm not saying you would be i just think if we'd of won 2 or 3 of the close games (we would of been 2nd) i don't think people would of been as critical as they are.

Yes they would...........I didnt want Agar in the job and he still hasnt proven to me he is the right person.

shhhh, let people have their say, we've been proven right, they just don't like it.

Agar is NOT good enough, it is simple.

So you keep saying. After losing 5 on the bounce (in the league) were still only 2 points off 2nd! Things can only improve. People just don't see that the competition is a lot more competitive this year, Harlequins and salford have won at leeds, Rovers and bradford have won at saints.

You haven't been proven right though. As much as you would like to think so. I expect you to jump on the bandwagon though.