says you

As I replied to Paul, with all home games on the same day of the week, which way do you think the results would be skewed?

There is no practical way of canvassing a balanced cross-section of fans, the club can't win.

so we didn't play Bradford on a Friday night, or Rovers on a Friday, Leeds on a Saturday?

you may as well just say "it suits me, so anyone else can clear off"

there hasn't been a reasonable, balanced and unbiased survey, to do that you'd need to send a letter to ever season pass holder, but that wouldn't matter, because Friday is all about corporate, not the average fan, especially those who travel and/or have young families.

If AP wants bums on seats he's going to have t do better than Holdsworth and Friday nights at £25 a pop.

I think you're right about corporate. I sit in the West stand on the 10m line near the South Stand and so don't have a clear view of the West Stand middle. I suppose if the corporate involvement is low, the middle of the West Stand will be pretty empty becasue that's where the corporate seats are. Has it been paticularly empty this season?

Now now, some will start defending £25 a pop

everyone's circumstances are different, and I appreciate that, my scenario is:

Live in Nottinghamshire, work in the West Midlands (or further South dependant on contracts), indirectly manage a team of 20 people, so taking a very early dart every other Friday is out. I can finish at 4pm, if the M42/M1/M18 are kind I can be in Hull by 7pm, straight to the game, straight home afterwards, getting in at after 11pm (again, if the roads are kind), £50 in diesel (if not more) £25 for the game (so £50 if my other half comes), £100 for 2 hours "entertainment".

Sunday we can come up, go and see my family and friends, have breakfast, meet rugby friends for a drink, leisurely walk to the game, talk to people in the ground, at full time have a few more drinks, go to my old local and see old friends, leisurely drive home, back by 8pm, still got a few hours to relax before bed. Still costs me £100 to go to the game, but my £100 buys me a whole lot more.

If you picked one game from each of the possible days, maybe it would give a better indication. Again though, it still doesn't give a good enough sample, because the only time you're then asking people who can't make it on a Sunday is when the game is also on TV and people can just stay at home or go to the pub.



Actually, I think you're getting closer to saying that than me or this decision by the club.



Another idea that sounds good at first, but when you think about it isn't much better. If you write to all of the season ticket holders, you're basically writing predominantly to those who find the current arrangements suitable and come anyway, so they're either going to say stick with what we have, or not even bother replying because it doesn't matter to them. Also, such a method would completely ignore the walk up fans, which defeats the objective. We need the people who don't already have season tickets to buy them or start going more often on the gate.

I consider myself a fairly average fan and I prefer Fridays. I suspect a few others on this thread who have stated they prefer Fridays are also fairly average fans. This is what I mean, why do some people have to make out like everyone prefers Sundays the same as they do and that the club are dumping on them instead of just accepting that other people have different situations to them? I can tell from where I sit that there are some people there this year who haven't been much in the last couple of years as they couldn't make Fridays, likewise there are a good bunch who have now disappeared but were there for said Bradford, Rovers and Leeds games.



I guess we'll see next year.

Its not just based on that 9's survey is it they say that, they say they've had feedback from other sources too, In the end its their decision anyway, and no doubt a business one, they can consult FC Voices as long as they like but the group like everyone else is split on this because now its a matter of personal taste as with all fans it suits some and not others.

As I say game day should have been a Sunday as it always has been since the early 70's, then none of this would have occured. As has been said above too the Club have made a business decision because no doubt they feel they will get more people there on a Friday thus they make more money, thus they buy better players, most of the 'big' teams seem to play on a Friday these days for some reason anyway. Pearson is hardly likely to make a change if he thinks that they are going to get less there just to p*ss off those it doesnt suit is he. We can tell him till the cows come home who and how he should consult but in the end he is going to make the best business decision to take the Club forward.

The regime we now have in place we have to trust to be in it to make HUll FC successful again, well we do until they are proved otherwise, so far they have invested heavily and are making all the right noises, they have brought in the best Coach available, secured probably the best British Player playing in Australia and agreed terms and a fee for the current Man of Steel, that'll do for now (for me at Least) so I guess if they feel they need to change game day then we have to try and understand their reasons. At least we have some prior notice, last time it was switched to a Friday under Hetherington we read about it in the brochure. Just my opinion of course, I quite like Sundays!! Its going to happen and it won't suit some of us!

I reckon they're going to change it every year just to breathe a new lease of life into threads on this specific topic.

Why should a group that represents the fans' view independently from the club be split?

Their mandate should come from the people it represents, the fans. Maybe voices could do a survey, not at the 9's.

Maybe because the fan base as a whole are split and they are a fairly representative sample?

They should not be a sample.

They should have a mandate from the fans, simple as. They should be going to the club with " X % want friday Y % want Sat and Z % want Sunday after our research"

They have no mandate, thy are like the mods on here, appointed by their friends/people with the same opinions.

FCVoices isn't independent of the club, it's a gesture by the previous management to have us believe they were listening, I know a number of the FCVoices members and they do a good job, but they are not voted into position by anything like a democratic process, you or I would never be entertained as members of the group, HISA died because people had the audacity to say what they thought (and have subsequently been vindicated by AP himself saying the previous lot didn't invest but took money out)

You asked why they might be split, I simply said it may well be because most fans appear to be split on the issue, so it's a likely reason.

For the research, have FC Voices got a magic book with all the names, addresses and telephone numbers of Hull FC fans to ask everybody? If not, research is always going to be of a sample.

What some just seem to be unable to get into their heads is the possibility that there may not be a majority of people who think the same as them. It seems that unless research shows the results that they want, they'd rather believe it was falsified.