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Quote: Kosh "Irrefutable evidence of a cover-up there.

Seriously - do you really think that counting responses on this board is any kind of indicator as to the results of the survey?'"


Hey about 300 Hull fans out of the regular 12k that go to home games use this site, whats your point icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Kosh "Irrefutable evidence of a cover-up there.

Seriously - do you really think that counting responses on this board is any kind of indicator as to the results of the survey?'"

Of course it is....How many people do you think fill in a survey ? or actually go on the website ? Or receive the grapevine ?

I will tell you like this board a very small minority of the faithful.

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Quote: Kosh "Irrefutable evidence of a cover-up there.

Seriously - do you really think that counting responses on this board is any kind of indicator as to the results of the survey?'"


I wonder if the results of the survey will ever be published?

If they are not then I think that would be suspicious.

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Quote: Diogenes "I wonder if the results of the survey will ever be published?

If they are not then I think that would be suspicious.'"

There will have been a couple of hundred responses at the most!

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Quote: Marfa Manu "Of course it is....How many people do you think fill in a survey ? or actually go on the website ? Or receive the grapevine ?

I will tell you like this board a very small minority of the faithful.'"

Of course it's a small sample - I made the same point myself elsewhere. But it's a [idifferent[/i small sample of an unknown size and with an unknown overlap with the posters on this board. There will be people who did the survey but don't post on here and vice versa. No meaningful conclusion can be drawn by trying to compare the two without a whole bunch more data.

I realise that you're upset by this decision given that you're one of the more ardent advocates of Friday nights, but you're not approaching this logically.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "There will have been a couple of hundred responses at the most!'"

Based on what data? icon_confused.gif

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Quote: Kosh "Of course it's a small sample - I made the same point myself elsewhere. But it's a [idifferent[/i small sample of an unknown size and with an unknown overlap with the posters on this board. There will be people who did the survey but don't post on here and vice versa. No meaningful conclusion can be drawn by trying to compare the two without a whole bunch more data.

I realise that you're upset by this decision given that you're one of the more ardent advocates of Friday nights, but you're not approaching this logically.'"

No I am not upset, I doubt very much I will miss a game icon_lol.gif....It may be a mad rush upto the end of April but I am sure we will be there as usual.
In fact I doubt 100 people responded!

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Quote: Kosh "Of course it's a small sample - I made the same point myself elsewhere. But it's a [idifferent[/i small sample of an unknown size and with an unknown overlap with the posters on this board. There will be people who did the survey but don't post on here and vice versa. No meaningful conclusion can be drawn by trying to compare the two without a whole bunch more data.

I realise that you're upset by this decision given that you're one of the more ardent advocates of Friday nights, but you're not approaching this logically.'"


Come on Kosh this is emotive stuff - its unfair to expect fans to approach it logically.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "No I am not upset, I doubt very much I will miss a game Then I don't understand all the heat and light.

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Quote: Diogenes "Come on Kosh this is emotive stuff - its unfair to expect fans to approach it logically.'"

I understand why people might be upset by the outcome - I had a good old rant on here myself when we changed to Fridays [iafter[/i the passes went on sale - but questioning the mechanism ought to involve some logic at least.

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Quote: Kosh "Then I don't understand all the heat and light.'"

Because this clearly has nothing to do with what all the faithful want as only a few even knew a survey was even taking place, also they claim the decision was made before the end of the survey due to the overwhelming response, now I say that is complete and utter b0llox!...this is no better than the stunts the last lot pulled. Like mentioned the results should be made public.

Why not write to every passholder ? and put it on the website, then they could have had 8000 fans opinions ?

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Quote: Kosh "I understand why people might be upset by the outcome - I had a good old rant on here myself when we changed to Fridays [iafter[/i the passes went on sale - but questioning the mechanism ought to involve some logic at least.'"


But surely everyone is going to look at it from their own position? Their perspective is their reality.

And surely its illogical to make a decision before the survey closes.

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Quote: Graham Richards "Just to be consistent I will say the sooner game day is back to Sunday the better. Weekends are c rap when we have been beaten. I only have so much cash to spend so all this talk of it leaving the weekend free to be with family etc is b olloxs as rugby is my choice of leisure with the family as it was for my parents and I can't afford to take family to both every other week. It also does exclude kids from going in a lot of cases school night or not. I also feel Friday nights restrict the match day experience. If done correctly we could generate a great experience utilising the Park and the ground facilities similar to in Australia if we played at 3pm on a sunday. The day could build from mid morning onwards. The SMC would be pleased as additional sales would come in etc. There are massive opportunities which cannot be explored at 7pm on a Friday night.
The players rest argument is b olloxs. If you actually go through the fixtures there is enough variation in the playing dates to show this actually balances out. It was an argument used at the time of the change which does not stand up to scrutiny.
The away support is diminished on a Friday night and also it restricts the home support to a parochial crowd who are simply local at the exclusion of those who have flown the nest as it where.
I appreciate it doesn't work for all, but a mix would be far better as it was thus allowing everyone to be included. I do suspect though that it will stay the same as Jimmy will always fall back on his scientific survey.'"


Thank you Adam. You and I will go far together.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "Because this clearly has nothing to do with what all the faithful want as only a few even knew a survey was even taking place, also they claim the decision was made before the end of the survey due to the overwhelming response, now I say that is complete and utter b0llox!...this is no better than the stunts the last lot pulled. Like mentioned the results should be made public.

Why not write to every passholder ? and put it on the website, then they could have had 8000 fans opinions ?'"

It isn't 'clearly' anything. You've expressed [iyour opinion[/i, not fact. It's entirely possible that the majority of surveys sent out have been returned and the majority of those favoured Sundays.

The survey WAS on the website - you just had to register for The Grapevine to have it delivered. Granted that process seems to have been hit-and-miss at best.

Writing to every pass-holder would have taken too long and cost too much. Similarly with the original idea of including the question with the pass renewal forms. By the time the result was in it would be too late to change things for next season.

At least this time people will know what's happening [ibefore[/i they buy a pass.

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Quote: Kosh "I understand why people might be upset by the outcome - I had a good old rant on here myself when we changed to Fridays [iafter[/i the passes went on sale - but questioning the mechanism ought to involve some logic at least.'"

'eh!!
They made a decision before the survey closed, a survey which was only open to the few supporters who actually use the website..where is the logic in that ?

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