But we now have a pivot at full back, one in the halves and one at hooker. Do we really need 4 pivots and Richard Horne in the side?
It needs to balanced and I think we lose that by playing with a flair player at 13.

My thoughts exactly, when we got rid of Briscoe we started down the route of a 'creative' player at FB starting with Motu and ultimately ending up with Tansey. Each of us has an opinion and for mine I would go with the creative FB and the running LF every time.

agreed

Why not go for a creative full back and a creative 13 to compliment our creative 7, creative 9 and running 6. Tries galore.

Whats happening with Washbrook? Keep hearing murmurs he maybe off, but he's contracted till 2011 isn't he? Is he getting much game time this year?

Wont be going anywhere. Future club captain, just needs to make a position his and stick to it with no injuries.

No pressure then.....not a leader for mine and will struggle to nail down a position in the team for starters. Hope he doesn't go but cant see where he is going to fit in Agar's thinking. Not big enough for LF and not good enough for 6/7, only position I can see him getting a look in are as a back up 9 but would hope we would have a specialist in there.

Yeah but, no but!
When we have any of our first choice pivots missing, and we have a good pack of forwards, then wouldn't having a creative 13 be a better option?

I could understand having an extra forward last year, but now (when fit) we have a much better pack, but we often lack that creativity especially when Long is out.

I agree but the only LF creative enough to compensate for that would be Sinfield and we ain't gonna sign him. Whititng might have done it once but the club have played him in the wrong position for far too long, he's still got the ability to read the game but not the flair due to being bulked up and messed about position wise.
Although saying that Hall does have the flair and pace to make an excellent 6, given that half backs tend to be covered defensively, so maybe Richard Horne could play LF.

I think when Fitz goes he may get a prolonged run at 13. Until then we can simply use Washy as cover for 9 or 6 etc. (and we always need plenty of cover)

Washy is one of the most natural leaders we have. He was a great U20s captain and watching the guys on the pitch is one of the most vocal members out there. I'm lead to believe he leads from the front off the pitch too in training.

Think it may need a change of coach for him to get an extended run at 13 due to the type of player we play there, can he wait that long though????

Absolutely spot on that Dave.

As far as i can remember Agar has never used a Loose man except when injuries have forced it. It has always been used for a 3rd prop. I cannot see that changing in the near future either.

I'm still hoping the thing that changes in the future is our head coach!