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| Quote BlackNwhite="BlackNwhite"if your under the limit it can still effect your driving
'" but so can trying to light a cig!
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| Quote joetwizzy="joetwizzy"you have a point.. we should have regular smoking, drug smoking, sniffing and then an injection room'"
=redAnother crack like that and you're gone. No further warnings.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"Are you really stupid?
It is law, believe me, I used to manage a stadium.'"
Could you point me at the peace of legislation I'd be breaching if I lit up in the stand area in a stadium? Some stadiums in the UK have smoking stands.
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| Quote My Uncle Harry="My Uncle Harry"Could you point me at the peace of legislation I'd be breaching if I lit up in the stand area in a stadium? Some stadiums in the UK have smoking stands.'"
Depends on the definition of enclosed. Our stadium as far as im aware is enclosed by the way that it has one wall around it and the stands do have a roof meaning its enclosed for me.
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Quote Big Dave T="Big Dave T"Depends on the definition of enclosed. Our stadium as far as im aware is enclosed by the way that it has one wall around it and the stands do have a roof meaning its enclosed for me.'"
It's not enclosed.
AS QUOTED ABOVE.
www.smokefreeengland.co.uk/faq/l ... l#enclosed
The Health Act 2006 sets out that premises that are open to the public, or are used as a place of work (by more than one person or where members of the public might attend to receive or provide goods or services) are to be smokefree in areas that are enclosed or substantially enclosed. This includes both permanent structures and temporary ones such as tents and marquees. A roof includes any fixed or movable structures, such as canvas awnings.
Enclosed - Premises are considered to be enclosed if they have a ceiling or roof and, except for doors, windows or passageways, are wholly enclosed, whether on a permanent or temporary basis.
Substantially Enclosed - Premises are considered to be substantially enclosed if they have a ceiling or roof, but have an opening in the walls, which is less than half of the total areas of walls. The area of the opening does not include doors, windows or any other fittings that can be opened or shut.
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Quote Big Dave T="Big Dave T"Depends on the definition of enclosed. Our stadium as far as im aware is enclosed by the way that it has one wall around it and the stands do have a roof meaning its enclosed for me.'"
It's not enclosed.
AS QUOTED ABOVE.
www.smokefreeengland.co.uk/faq/l ... l#enclosed
The Health Act 2006 sets out that premises that are open to the public, or are used as a place of work (by more than one person or where members of the public might attend to receive or provide goods or services) are to be smokefree in areas that are enclosed or substantially enclosed. This includes both permanent structures and temporary ones such as tents and marquees. A roof includes any fixed or movable structures, such as canvas awnings.
Enclosed - Premises are considered to be enclosed if they have a ceiling or roof and, except for doors, windows or passageways, are wholly enclosed, whether on a permanent or temporary basis.
Substantially Enclosed - Premises are considered to be substantially enclosed if they have a ceiling or roof, but have an opening in the walls, which is less than half of the total areas of walls. The area of the opening does not include doors, windows or any other fittings that can be opened or shut.
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Quote My Uncle Harry="My Uncle Harry"It's not enclosed.
AS QUOTED ABOVE.
www.smokefreeengland.co.uk/faq/l ... l#enclosed
The Health Act 2006 sets out that premises that are open to the public, or are used as a place of work (by more than one person or where members of the public might attend to receive or provide goods or services) are to be smokefree in areas that are enclosed or substantially enclosed. This includes both permanent structures and temporary ones such as tents and marquees. A roof includes any fixed or movable structures, such as canvas awnings.
Enclosed - Premises are considered to be enclosed if they have a ceiling or roof and, except for doors, windows or passageways, are wholly enclosed, whether on a permanent or temporary basis.
Substantially Enclosed - Premises are considered to be substantially enclosed if they have a ceiling or roof, but have an opening in the walls, which is less than half of the total areas of walls. The area of the opening does not include doors, windows or any other fittings that can be opened or shut.'"
How do you work out thats its not enclosed from what youre quoting, it reads exactly the opposite to me. Rather than copying and pasting verbatim from the webpage why dont you explain to me your rationale cos im not getting you currently?
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Quote My Uncle Harry="My Uncle Harry"It's not enclosed.
AS QUOTED ABOVE.
www.smokefreeengland.co.uk/faq/l ... l#enclosed
The Health Act 2006 sets out that premises that are open to the public, or are used as a place of work (by more than one person or where members of the public might attend to receive or provide goods or services) are to be smokefree in areas that are enclosed or substantially enclosed. This includes both permanent structures and temporary ones such as tents and marquees. A roof includes any fixed or movable structures, such as canvas awnings.
Enclosed - Premises are considered to be enclosed if they have a ceiling or roof and, except for doors, windows or passageways, are wholly enclosed, whether on a permanent or temporary basis.
Substantially Enclosed - Premises are considered to be substantially enclosed if they have a ceiling or roof, but have an opening in the walls, which is less than half of the total areas of walls. The area of the opening does not include doors, windows or any other fittings that can be opened or shut.'"
How do you work out thats its not enclosed from what youre quoting, it reads exactly the opposite to me. Rather than copying and pasting verbatim from the webpage why dont you explain to me your rationale cos im not getting you currently?
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| To be honest, it seems clear enough to me. I don't reall see how you can say it's enclosed by that definition and thought posting the guidance was better than paraphrasing. If you think that's enclosed, would you like me to build you a similar style extension on your living room? I'm sure the people that get went when it rains would disagree with you too.
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| Quote My Uncle Harry="My Uncle Harry"To be honest, it seems clear enough to me. I don't reall see how you can say it's enclosed by that definition and thought posting the guidance was better than paraphrasing. If you think that's enclosed, would you like me to build you a similar style extension on your living room? I'm sure the people that get went when it rains would disagree with you too.'"
The stadium has a roof. That means enclosed doesnt it? A stadium like Craven Park with less than 50% of the seating/standing enclosed means it wouldnt be classed as enclosed. Every space where a fan sits in the KC has a roof covering it. How is the definition youve quoted saying anything different? My extension at home would need to be mostly covered by a roof to be classed as enclosed. I'd also have to operate a business from home for the smoking ban to be in place so highly irrelevant! 
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| 6 pages devoted to smoking in a stadium.
Now, if only your team were smoking hot on the pitch! 
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| Quote blakeysrobin="blakeysrobin"6 pages devoted to smoking in a stadium.
Now, if only your team were smoking hot on the pitch!
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6 pages and finally someone makes a joke!! 
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| Quote Big Dave T="Big Dave T"6 pages and finally someone makes a joke!!
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Thanks but Ironically If they were, Kath would probably ask them to leave the ground. 
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| Quote Big Dave T="Big Dave T"The stadium has a roof. That means enclosed doesnt it? A stadium like Craven Park with less than 50% of the seating/standing enclosed means it wouldnt be classed as enclosed. Every space where a fan sits in the KC has a roof covering it. How is the definition youve quoted saying anything different? My extension at home would need to be mostly covered by a roof to be classed as enclosed. I'd also have to operate a business from home for the smoking ban to be in place so highly irrelevant!
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The smoking shelters have roofs so there' a bit of a hole in your argument.
Not all seats are protected by the KC roof any way. The home thing was to emphasise the 'openess' of the stadium and the flaw in your argument, so clearly relevent.
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