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Sooo, let's see.
21 year old lad shipped over as an emergency, played 14 games with 7 wins even with a still out of sorts Holdsworth alongside (whom though a good field kicker isn't talented otherwise), he has no-one else to turn to as we still don't have a 7 and missing our most potent strike force (Lineham/Crooks) for the last 6 of those games (I include Wembley even though Crooks did play)
Overall given the circumstances and his swift transition to come over to play not a bad record for a kid thrown in the deep end.

2014, clearly not flavour of the month from the start, his main connection (& family member with the club has been fired (for having the temerity to get us two top 6 places and a Wembley appearance no less).

He doesn't play in any of the first 6 games despite us being then comes in and we win handsomely against Salford, he's in a side that scores 36 points the next game (Salford in the CC) but our defence overall let's us down & we lose by 1 point, next game we win handsomely against Hudds, that team that were the LLT winners and finished 3rd this season. Narrow loss to Rovers then a standard win against the whipping boys London.
4 losses on the bounce (because they were all his fault of course) then a covering the cracks win against London then dropped and that's his Hull FC career over...

Do you know what, it stinks to high heaven, bullocks has the kid been given a chance, he's had 10 games..TEN. We've being dog turd all season long barring a couple of games (Hudds, Saints & maybe Widnes though they played their worst game ever apparently)

Radford had it in for him from the off and if you think all the blames lies at his door for the losses, well see how amazing we were when he didn't play before AND after. Yeah we won a couple of meaningless games against the dobbins and a Leeds side with play-offs already in sight. We won four out of those ten games with 2 x one point losses, even so our winning ratio with him in the side was better than without him..go figure eh? (Our friendlies don't count because they were a ing shambles!)

Some of the side had their places cemented despite being much worse which is just laughable, he's had nack all support, he's being effectively left on his own (aside from his missus of course) & cast aside and told 'you're out', you're never playing again.. off.

Show me another 21yr old half that's been left out in the cold at the start of the season, told to carry a side like ours mid season that has succeeded when you have a *'coach' like ours at the helm (*I hesitate to use the word as a true descriptor of Radford as he just isn't)

Yeah..and we wonder why no-one good wants to come to our club.

Thanks Windy, I hope things work out for you lad.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Sooo, let's see.
21 year old lad shipped over as an emergency, played 14 games with 7 wins even with a still out of sorts Holdsworth alongside (whom though a good field kicker isn't talented otherwise), he has no-one else to turn to as we still don't have a 7 and missing our most potent strike force (Lineham/Crooks) for the last 6 of those games (I include Wembley even though Crooks did play)
Overall given the circumstances and his swift transition to come over to play not a bad record for a kid thrown in the deep end.

2014, clearly not flavour of the month from the start, his main connection (& family member with the club has been fired (for having the temerity to get us two top 6 places and a Wembley appearance no less).

He doesn't play in any of the first 6 games despite us being poop then comes in and we win handsomely against Salford, he's in a side that scores 36 points the next game (Salford in the CC) but our poop defence overall let's us down & we lose by 1 point, next game we win handsomely against Hudds, that team that were the LLT winners and finished 3rd this season. Narrow loss to Rovers then a standard win against the whipping boys London.
4 losses on the bounce (because they were all his fault of course) then a covering the cracks win against London then dropped and that's his Hull FC career over...

Do you know what, it stinks to high heaven, bullocks has the kid been given a chance, he's had 10 games..TEN. We've being dog turd all season long barring a couple of games (Hudds, Saints & maybe Widnes though they played their worst game ever apparently)

Radford had it in for him from the off and if you think all the blames lies at his door for the losses, well see how amazing we were when he didn't play before AND after. Yeah we won a couple of meaningless games against the dobbins and a Leeds side with play-offs already in sight. We won four out of those ten games with 2 x one point losses, even so our winning ratio with him in the side was better than without him..go figure eh? (Our friendlies don't count because they were a loving shambles!)

Some of the side had their places cemented despite being much worse which is just laughable, he's had nack all support, he's being effectively left on his own (aside from his missus of course) & cast aside and told 'you're out', you're never playing again..love off.

Show me another 21yr old half that's been left out in the cold at the start of the season, told to carry a side like ours mid season that has succeeded when you have a *'coach' like ours at the helm (*I hesitate to use the word as a true descriptor of Radford as he just isn't)

Yeah..and we wonder why no-one good wants to come to our club.

Thanks Windy, I hope things work out for you lad.'"


I agree with most of that!!

I have zero doubt that Jacob Miller will join a list of players that succeed and go on to much bigger and better things after Hull FC. He is a good player, the fact that he is on big money is not his fault...

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Sooo, let's see.
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Thanks Windy, I hope things work out for you lad.'"


Complete claptrap. Your insistance on blaming every failing at the club on Radford is pathetic.

Miller hasn't just had ten games, he's had twenty-four over two seasons and failed to shine. He has pace but his passing and kicking game is poor and he struggles in defence. In his ten games this season he try assists total was three.

His signing was a gamble that unfortunately didn't pay off.

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Given 10 games in a micturate poor side led by an even worse coach who couldn't ing wait to get rid (forced to play him) yet we had a better win ratio than when he wasn't playing..he never had a chance and Radford couldn't develop a case of the clap in a knocking shop full of Wigan prostitutes.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Given 10 games in a micturate poor side led by an even worse coach who couldn't loving wait to get rid (forced to play him) yet we had a better win ratio than when he wasn't playing..he never had a chance and Radford couldn't develop a case of the clap in a knocking shop full of Wigan prostitutes.'"


We won four games with Miller in the side although that included two against a club who only won once all season. That run also included Wigan and Wakefield at home which were two of our worst performances of the year. Even the most biased Hull fan must concede that the Huddersfield game at home was massively swung in our favour by the fixture list.

Not all Miller's fault of course, as I say he seems a good kid and tries hard but has been found wanting. He may eventually become a top SL or NRL player but I cannot see it.

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I hear Lee has applied by deed poll to change his name to Teflon.

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eastul105 wrote lets be fair Mickey Paea is too good for us.:



Quote: Standee "I hear Lee has applied by deed poll to change his name to Teflon.'"

Hilarious,no really.

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Quote: dayvoz "Hilarious,no really.'"

nothing is his fault, I'd say it's a fairly accurate observation.

Lee himself has admitted to mistakes in his first season, yet some will not have a bad word said about him.

I hope next season we win every game and entertain a full KC every week, because that's what some people may as well be claiming we'll do.

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Kosh or Chris need to set up a thread solely for the use of Knockersbump and standee so their Radford whineathon doesn't bore the fook out of the majority of other posters using this forum.

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Quote: FC Wembley 08 "I have zero doubt that Jacob Miller will join a list of players that succeed and go on to much bigger and better things after Hull FC.'"

I'd be interested in looking at this list.

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Quote: Standee "nothing is his fault, I'd say it's a fairly accurate observation.'"

This is nonsense, plain and simple.

Not blaming [ieverything[/i on Radford is not the same as not blaming [ianything[/i on Radford. Unfortunately you and one or two others are unable to appreciate the distinction.

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Quote: Kosh "I'd be interested in looking at this list.'"

it's a fairly short one, recently I can only think of Brough, and he changed his attitude when he got to Huddersfield, nobody else springs immediately to mind.

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eastul105 wrote lets be fair Mickey Paea is too good for us.:



Quote: Standee "nothing is his fault, I'd say it's a fairly accurate observation.

Lee himself has admitted to mistakes in his first season, yet some will not have a bad word said about him.

I hope next season we win every game and entertain a full KC every week, because that's what some people may as well be claiming we'll do.'"

Not really like that though is it,he has 1 or 2 staunch supporters and then there's you and knockersbump at the other end of the scale with most others somewhere in the middle hoping the best for the club.
You just come over as antagonistic with a personal vendetta on most occasions with nothing positive to say.IMO

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Quote: Kosh "I'd be interested in looking at this list.'"


Totally, how many players have we chosen to release over the last few years that have gone on to have success at other clubs. You could argue Brough and Hodgson but neither of them have won anything major.

Also I'd love to see these posters that claim that Radford can do know wrong, most posters have said Radford has made mistakes but are willing to give him a chance next season rather than go on about him in every thread and blame him for everything without knowing the full facts, such as the Crooks and Miller situations.

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Quote: dayvoz "You just come over as antagonistic with a personal vendetta on most occasions with nothing positive to say.IMO'"


And you are entitled to that opinion, as I am entitled not to care about it.

I have no personal vendetta, I just air my opinion. And I will say positive things, when positive things happen. We have a great youth setup, we have made some bang average signings, we have a less than average head coach. Those are just facts.

And we all hope the best for the club, I am sure of that.

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