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Quote: tommyfromhull "Ok, compared to international Yeaman he doesn't look too shabby either Surely those stats are wrong because it says there are only 6 missed tackles, and he cannot tackle cos Fcbaldy told us so and no doubt an ex player told him icon_lol.gif

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I'll be disapointed to see Turner leave having seen his progress under Gentle, but if Brothers comments are correct it means PG, Adam and Bomber have someone pencilled in at Centre who is surely part of Adams comments re. other top line players coming in. So who knows we may then have 2 international Centres for next season.
Adam has already made a statement of intent. We have to trust the judgement of what these 3 are building here.
They are committed to building a better team, I believe they will and all the "will he, should he" comments are interesting fan speculation along the way, but ultimately we will end up with much stronger squad than we have now. Perhaps with some ruthless decisions on who has to go. We will not become trophy winners by staying with the same playing rosta.

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If turner is going then im worried about the lack of pace we have in the side. It showed yesterday when hudds made them breaks. Briscoe had a chance in the 1st half to go down the wing but he came in field.

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Still I decided on turner player well so far this season, will be interesting to see how he goes in the next two games if he pays, I think he will be on decent money ad was one of salfords top players when we signed him and they offered him a deal to stay.

At least we look to have a replacement signed who has a lot of potential.

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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: Marfa Manu "Surely those stats are wrong because it says there are only 6 missed tackles, and he cannot tackle cos Fcbaldy told us so and no doubt an ex player told him

Not just about this season though.He has been found out in defence since he joined us tbh.Writing was on the wall for Turner when we signed Martin and he played over him.Turner is playing well i grant you but when he plays against better centres than Wellham and Shenton,he is found wanting.If we need to progress as a club then better players are needed than Turner and a few others i may add.

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Quote: fc baldy "Not just about this season though.He has been found out in defence since he joined us tbh.Writing was on the wall for Turner when we signed Martin and he played over him.Turner is playing well i grant you but when he plays against better centres than Wellham and Shenton,he is found wanting.If we need to progress as a club then better players are needed than Turner and a few others i may add.'"

Why isn't it just about this season? Of corse it is. You look at a player on their current form, not what their past efforts.

Turner had a knock for most of the game yesterday, which eventually led for him to be taken off.

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Quote: fc baldy "Not just about this season though.He has been found out in defence since he joined us tbh.Writing was on the wall for Turner when we signed Martin and he played over him.Turner is playing well i grant you but when he plays against better centres than Wellham and Shenton,he is found wanting.If we need to progress as a club then better players are needed than Turner and a few others i may add.'"

A lot of players were failing in defense when Agar was in charge, Gentle is big on defense and this has shown in most players especially last seasons fringe players like Turner & Sharpe. To say he will be found out against better centres is premature at this stage, Welham is no mug in offense and his ability to score proves this however Turner did a job on him. At the end of the day you are just grasping at straws as you will not admit you were wrong about Turner. At then end of the day performances are about this season we have a new coach in situ, Turner has proved so far what he can do under a coach with some pedigree, and I if the rumours are true and he goes to Saints I have no doubts he will carry on developing & improving under another good coach Brown.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "A lot of players were failing in defense when Agar was in charge, Gentle is big on defense and this has shown in most players especially last seasons fringe players like Turner & Sharpe. To say he will be found out against better centres is premature at this stage, Welham is no mug in offense and his ability to score proves this however Turner did a job on him. At the end of the day you are just grasping at straws as you will not admit you were wrong about Turner. At then end of the day performances are about this season we have a new coach in situ, Turner has proved so far what he can do under a coach with some pedigree, and I if the rumours are true and he goes to Saints I have no doubts he will carry on developing & improving under another good coach Brown.'"



Why am i wrong????? i just dont rate him.

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Quote: fc baldy "Why am i wrong????? i just dont rate him.'"

Noting wrong with not rating him....posting on the Saints board that he could not tackle a salad is slating him, big difference!

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Quote: Marfa Manu "Noting wrong with not rating him....posting on the Saints board that he could not tackle a salad is slating him, big difference!'"


And you dont "slate" players........i slated a few yesterday then as thought a few had bad games.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "A lot of players were failing in defense when Agar was in charge, Gentle is big on defense and this has shown in most players especially last seasons fringe players like Turner & Sharpe. To say he will be found out against better centres is premature at this stage, Welham is no mug in offense and his ability to score proves this however Turner did a job on him. At the end of the day you are just grasping at straws as you will not admit you were wrong about Turner. At then end of the day performances are about this season we have a new coach in situ, Turner has proved so far what he can do under a coach with some pedigree, and I if the rumours are true and he goes to Saints I have no doubts he will carry on developing & improving under another good coach Brown.'"



When Martin and Yeaman are both fully fit then Turner will be left out...maybe harsh but thats the way the season started...a journeyman 33yr old aussie in ahead of him.

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Quote: fc baldy "And you dont "slate" players........i slated a few yesterday then as thought a few had bad games.'"

I often criticize a player who I consider is not performing.

You claimed he could not tackle a salad, he has only missed 6 tackles all season.
You slated him for missing a tackle on Brough, Brough is top 3 in tackle busts and top 25 for clean breaks..
You talk absolute pap!

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Quote: fc baldy "When Martin and Yeaman are both fully fit then Turner will be left out...maybe harsh but thats the way the season started...a journeyman 33yr old aussie in ahead of him.'"

Of course he will because Marin is loads better isn't he icon_rolleyes.gif


www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012
Quote: fc baldy "When Martin and Yeaman are both fully fit then Turner will be left out...maybe harsh but thats the way the season started...a journeyman 33yr old aussie in ahead of him.'"

Of course he will because Marin is loads better isn't he icon_rolleyes.gif


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Quote: Marfa Manu "Of course he will because Marin is loads better isn't he
That's not fair. You're using facts to back up your case.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "I often criticize a player who I consider is not performing.

You claimed he could not tackle a salad, he has only missed 6 tackles all season.
You slated him for missing a tackle on Brough, Brough is top 3 in tackle busts and top 25 for clean breaks..
You talk absolute pap!'"


Im upset now...no,seriousely i am.I talk pap for not rating Turner...im not just going on this season though...he has never been able to hold down a centre spot even though we have struggled with injuries...he scored a lot last season towards the end against Crusaders and the like but when up against the likes of Atkins ( who is worse than Turner defensively btw) he is found wanting.He may be bulked up to much and looking at the pack now but do you see him and Yeaman as our 2 starting centres to take us to the next level?????

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